Cayin N6ii, Unlimited Possibilities: a fully modularized smart DAP

Dec 2, 2019 at 10:50 AM Post #2,806 of 8,308
I'm not really sure what to expect...my interest is mostly motivated by curiosity and my love of the OG Solaris (and Campfire in general). My tastes are pretty broad-- lots of electronic, classical and classic rock. Limited amounts of hip hop and very little metal (beyond some early Metallica).
Don’t expect to much difference to OG...
 
Dec 2, 2019 at 10:57 AM Post #2,807 of 8,308
Don’t expect to much difference to OG...

In a hobby where people lose their crap chasing the final 5% in sound quality "not too much difference" is still something to be excited about. In any case, my enjoyment of this hobby is enhanced by trying new gear, especially refinements of gear that I already love dearly, so major differences or not I'm still stoked to hear it. Plus where I live abalone is considered a symbol of great wealth and power so it might be just what I need.
 
Dec 2, 2019 at 10:59 AM Post #2,808 of 8,308
In a hobby where people lose their crap chasing the final 5% in sound quality "not too much difference" is still something to be excited about. In any case, my enjoyment of this hobby is enhanced by trying new gear, especially refinements of gear that I already love dearly, so major differences or not I'm still stoked to hear it. Plus where I live abalone is considered a symbol of great wealth and power so it might be just what I need.
Salty Vage , same in Hong Kong.
 
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Dec 2, 2019 at 11:00 AM Post #2,809 of 8,308
In a hobby where people lose their crap chasing the final 5% in sound quality "not too much difference" is still something to be excited about. In any case, my enjoyment of this hobby is enhanced by trying new gear, especially refinements of gear that I already love dearly, so major differences or not I'm still stoked to hear it. Plus where I live abalone is considered a symbol of great wealth and power so it might be just what I need.
Good luck that it is it what you’re looking for :) I probably try the u18t next
 
Dec 2, 2019 at 11:01 AM Post #2,810 of 8,308
It would be strange if there was a big difference between the OG and SE. Then it should not be called Solaris. Therefore, a new look with the Solaris sound may well be called SPECIAL
 
Dec 2, 2019 at 11:02 AM Post #2,811 of 8,308
There's a hint, at least (Class A, Class AB).

I'm guessing this isn't Korg, but rather a discrete class A amp module (combined with the obvious ESS DAC).
If that was the case why would Cayin provide SE only output? Usually on discreet solid state kit DAPs include a balanced output too. At least this is how iBasso has done it.
 
Dec 2, 2019 at 11:03 AM Post #2,812 of 8,308
Good luck that it is it what you’re looking for :) I probably try the u18t next

Nice! Have heard great things about it.

It would be strange if there was a big difference between the OG and SE. Then it should not be called Solaris. Therefore, a new look with the Solaris sound may well be called SPECIAL

It's been stated that there have been subtle refinements to the sound...but to what degree remains to be seen. And I agree...imho the AG Andro should have been called something else for that reason.
 
Dec 2, 2019 at 11:04 AM Post #2,813 of 8,308
If that was the case why would Cayin provide SE only output? Usually on discreet solid state kit DAPs include a balanced output too. At least this is how iBasso has done it.
A great amp will give you more power than a balanced amp.
 
Dec 2, 2019 at 11:16 AM Post #2,814 of 8,308
A great amp will give you more power than a balanced amp.
That's possible. I wasn't thinking about power though. I was talking about usability and sellability. I'm talking about this from a business perspective. Most customers are going to want some sort of balanced output. Right now the 4.4mm is the most popular and everyone is expecting that, and they have spent money on 4.4mm cables. When the average customer sees the E01 and there isn't a reason for it to be SE only they aren't going to buy it. In fact iBasso had this issue. That pushes my thinking toward this being some sort of tube amp.
 
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Dec 2, 2019 at 11:49 AM Post #2,815 of 8,308
If that was the case why would Cayin provide SE only output? Usually on discreet solid state kit DAPs include a balanced output too. At least this is how iBasso has done it.
True Class A creates a lot of heat, so perhaps balanced wasn’t possible from a thermal perspective. IMO only of course. We’ll see what it is soon :)
 
Dec 2, 2019 at 2:48 PM Post #2,816 of 8,308
E01's core design architecture consists of three parts, namely:



1. The DAC adopts one ES9038PRO. The eight-channel DAC is output in differential current mode, and the four channels are connected in parallel to one channel, followed by IV conversion.

2. The headphone power amplifier circuit is constructed by discrete components. It uses a low-noise audio special junction field effect transistor and a transistor. It has strong current output capability and load control capability.

3. The power amplifier circuit has Class A (Class A) and Class A and B (AB) dual working modes, which can be switched instantly by the user through the UI. This is the first design on a portable player product.
 
Dec 2, 2019 at 2:51 PM Post #2,817 of 8,308
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Dec 2, 2019 at 3:00 PM Post #2,819 of 8,308
E01's core design architecture consists of three parts, namely:



1. The DAC adopts one ES9038PRO. The eight-channel DAC is output in differential current mode, and the four channels are connected in parallel to one channel, followed by IV conversion.

2. The headphone power amplifier circuit is constructed by discrete components. It uses a low-noise audio special junction field effect transistor and a transistor. It has strong current output capability and load control capability.

3. The power amplifier circuit has Class A (Class A) and Class A and B (AB) dual working modes, which can be switched instantly by the user through the UI. This is the first design on a portable player product.

Regarding Point 3 - I've not had much experience with Class A vs AB - so what's the point in switching instantly between the two? In simple terms does this mean that Class A just sounds a bit better and Class AB has more power?
 

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