[CL14715]

se better than solaris 2020?

Yes pplover, to me the SE is better than the 2020.

 

[gto88]

Yes pplover, to me the SE is better than the 2020.

However, some claim 2020 has other strength, and fitting issue is a bigger factor, isn't it.

 

[Rockwell75]

However, some claim 2020 has other strength, and fitting issue is a bigger factor, isn't it.

I haven't heard the 2020, but if you're prepared to spend the money on either, and fit is not likely to be an issue, then I would heartily rec the SE.

 

[gnahra]

I haven't heard the 2020, but if you're prepared to spend the money on either, and fit is not likely to be an issue, then I would heartily rec the SE.

@pplover I think the two are very close. I would recommend either to be honest. Both are outstanding IEMs.
If you want the SE you can buy mine (listed for sale on this site)

 

[CL14715]

@pplover I think the two are very close. I would recommend either to be honest. Both are outstanding IEMs.
If you want the SE you can buy mine (listed for sale on this site)

Yea, help our boy out. Win Win.

 

[fokta]

planning to buy my first campfire earphone, i am using sony zx507 and lotoo gold touch,and pop rock and female vocal is my music taste,so andromeda or solaris which one is better?

female pop and rock from Japan? if it is, and ur first buy, try Andro S or G first if possible...

 

[HarlanDraka]

OK I sold the U12t (goodbye babies) and now I have to decide between Solaris SE and 2020.I could have both for more or less the same price.
I like the fact the solaris 2020 is smaller and it has sligthly more bass but what are your thoughts about differences in soundstage and instrument separation compared to the SE? The famous holographic soundstage and outstanding instrument separation are the reason I always wanted to try a Solaris and I would like to know if the 2020 still has them. Thanks

 

[cr3ativ3]

OK I sold the U12t (goodbye babies) and now I have to decide between Solaris SE and 2020.I could have both for more or less the same price.
I like the fact the solaris 2020 is smaller and it has sligthly more bass but what are your thoughts about differences in soundstage and instrument separation compared to the SE? The famous holographic soundstage and outstanding instrument separation are the reason I always wanted to try a Solaris and I would like to know if the 2020 still has them. Thanks

yes , its "still" a solaris

 

[inventionlws]

Motivated by @Tristy, here is a comparison of the FR between 2020 and SE with axis scale aligned (and a slight y shift)

Crinacle's Solaris SE measurement on 711-compliant rig = Green line
Jude's Measurements of the Solaris 2020 (GRAS) = Red and Blue
Almost no difference in FR below ~3.3 kHz. 4-5 kHz valley is filled with 2020.

 

[slumberman]

Motivated by @Tristy, here is a comparison of the FR between 2020 and SE with axis scale aligned (and a slight y shift)


Crinacle's Solaris SE measurement on 711-compliant rig = Green line
Jude's Measurements of the Solaris 2020 (GRAS) = Red and Blue
Almost no difference in FR below ~3.3 kHz. 4-5 kHz valley is filled with 2020.

I'm sorry, but comparing graphs of measurements made on different rigs is completely useless. These were done on two different rigs...

 

[inventionlws]

I'm sorry, but comparing graphs of measurements made on different rigs is completely useless. These were done on two different rigs...

I would not say it is completely useless. Both rigs are compliant with the IEC 60318-4 (711) standard. Caveat applies more to high frequencies where insertion depth and choice of tips matter.

 

[jamington2004]

Brilliant IEM - really shine with the Hugo 2 for me!
I am considering trying the u12t or IER Z1R though to see if they are a little less forward.
But then again I love how forward these are most of the time - so worried I will miss the sound I love
Guess this is why some of you lot end up with a quiver of headphones!!
(new to the game me )

 

[slumberman]

I would not say it is completely useless. Both rigs are compliant with the IEC 60318-4 (711) standard. Caveat applies more to high frequencies where insertion depth and choice of tips matter.

you are welcome to think however you like, my friend. from a technical point of view, this comparison IS useless: Different rig, different people recording, etc.

 

[IAMTHEEGGMAN]

There's a point where I don't know what to believe.

Are the fr graphs the whole truth in this story? I know this would be a flaming question, but it's a honest one. I think, maybe misunderstanding, than some tangible aspects like resonances, soundstage, instruments separations, etc. might not be reflected in a FR graph. Do they?

 

[slumberman]

There's a point where I don't know what to believe.

Are the fr graphs the whole truth in this story? I know this would be a flaming question, but it's a honest one. I think, maybe misunderstanding, than some tangible aspects like resonances, soundstage, instruments separations, etc. might not be reflected in a FR graph. Do they?

you're 100% right. they're just one aspect. they don't substitute listening and personal judgement and cannot measure the peculiarities you have mentioned.