Campfire - Solaris
- Thread starter KB
- Start date
Ref 8 cable is very good. But very, I mean VERY microphonic, just a heads up
Totally agree, so much so I returned mine to the retailer for this reason. Yet on ALO Audio's website it says " microphonics to the minimum" but I would hate to think what maximum would be!
davidmolliere
Headphoneus Supremus
So... I have been spending some quality time with Hiby R6 Pro and the pairing with Solaris is very very good. I’ll be updating my review once I have some more time with it (along with iDSD Micro BL). I’ll also provide a comparison to JVC FW10000
Compared to 1Z, the R6 Pro is quite neutral, with great transparency and clarity which brings additional air and benefits imaging. Soundstage isn’t as grandiose though, the 1Z still has the edge in height and is significantly taller while width and depth is fairly similar. 1Z has more body and weight and is overall thicker.
The R6 Pro provides a lot of headroom pushing a whopping 750mW @32ohm balanced and it shows. It also features a much lower output impedance at 0.28 ohm vs 0.94 ohm balanced for 1Z. Bass is meatier with a tad more mid bass, a snappier attack and sub bass can be downright thunderous on bass heavy genres while not loosing control either. Mids are smoother and more balanced, with a tad more lower mids and less upper mids emphasis compared to 1Z. Highs are a bit less energetic compared to 1Z the lower treble energy looses a little bit (I like 1Z better there) but upper treble have a bit more presence.
All in all, I like the R6 Pro pairing just as much as the 1Z, both highlights different facets of the Solaris.
@twister6 I’d love to get your impressions on the Solaris pairing with Cayin N8 by the way
Compared to 1Z, the R6 Pro is quite neutral, with great transparency and clarity which brings additional air and benefits imaging. Soundstage isn’t as grandiose though, the 1Z still has the edge in height and is significantly taller while width and depth is fairly similar. 1Z has more body and weight and is overall thicker.
The R6 Pro provides a lot of headroom pushing a whopping 750mW @32ohm balanced and it shows. It also features a much lower output impedance at 0.28 ohm vs 0.94 ohm balanced for 1Z. Bass is meatier with a tad more mid bass, a snappier attack and sub bass can be downright thunderous on bass heavy genres while not loosing control either. Mids are smoother and more balanced, with a tad more lower mids and less upper mids emphasis compared to 1Z. Highs are a bit less energetic compared to 1Z the lower treble energy looses a little bit (I like 1Z better there) but upper treble have a bit more presence.
All in all, I like the R6 Pro pairing just as much as the 1Z, both highlights different facets of the Solaris.
@twister6 I’d love to get your impressions on the Solaris pairing with Cayin N8 by the way
Last edited:
jmills8
Previously known as bmiamihk, jmills2
So... I have been spending some quality time with Hiby R6 Pro and the pairing with Solaris is very very good. I’ll be updating my review once I have some more time with it (along with iDSD Micro BL). I’ll also provide a comparison to JVC FW10000
Compared to 1Z, the R6 Pro is quite neutral, with great transparency and clarity which brings additional air and benefits imaging. Soundstage isn’t as grandiose though, the 1Z still has the edge in height and is significantly taller while width and depth is fairly similar. 1Z has more body and weight and is overall thicker.
The R6 Pro provides a lot of headroom pushing a whopping 750mW @32ohm balanced and it shows. It also features a much lower output impedance at 0.28 ohm vs 0.94 ohm balanced for 1Z. Bass is meatier with a tad more mid bass, a snappier attack and sub bass can be downright thunderous on bass heavy genres while not loosing control either. Mids are smoother and more balanced, with a tad more lower mids and less upper mids emphasis compared to 1Z. Highs are a bit less energetic compared to 1Z the lower treble energy looses a little bit (I like 1Z better there) but upper treble have a bit more presence.
All in all, I like the R6 Pro pairing just as much as the 1Z, both highlights different facets of the Solaris.
@twister6 I’d love to get your impressions on the Solaris pairing with Cayin N8 by the way
- Joined
- Oct 6, 2013
- Posts
- 15,521
- Likes
- 49,620
Sorry, N8 was a short term loaner for review. I don't have it anymore.
BananaOoyoo
1000+ Head-Fier
CA should be getting a new distributor here! They said keep an eye out around the new year, so hoping it’s soon. IMO gsoundlab wasn’t the best distributor...
bumpyhead
New Head-Fier
Whichever potential distributors here CA may be playing a tug of war with, I only hope they'd strike a deal in no time. Thanks for the heads up anyway.
Ref 8 cable is very good. But very, I mean VERY microphonic, just a heads up
Yup, Ref8 is the most microphonic cable that I owned... but still the best cable in term SQ increase with SOLARIS, even POLARIS (Mid boost)....
took me 1 month to get use to the microphonic effect...
BananaOoyoo
1000+ Head-Fier
My hope is that the new distributor doesn’t jack up prices like crazy. I know the market here is smaller than the one in Japan, but it was over $1500 for Andromeda here.
Noble’s new distributor seems to be doing better with pricing (the K10 Encore is ~$400 cheaper), so hopefully Campfire’s new distributor is the same way.
davidmolliere
Headphoneus Supremus
Too bad, I guess it wouldn’t have been a bad pairing!
So I take it the ref 8 from ALO Audio is the best bet for an upgrade to performance ( particularly bass) on the Solaris?
hmmm yes and No...
Yes, it will increase overall in Low, Mid, High, SS.
No, the Bass will be the less upgrade...
IMO, based my exp, Solaris with Copper cable will be the way for bass, with compensation SS will be narrowed, and again IMO, I dont felt the Space create when u using stock cable (Super Litz). That what I feel
edit : the QTY of Bass, based on my ear, Solaris with Copper cable, will never match Atlas... IMO. but Solaris Sub bass still better then other. ..
Last edited:
davidmolliere
Headphoneus Supremus
Something arrived in the mail today 
I never experienced with custom tips for universal before, it’s not totally as seamless as I would have thought to put those babies on... I actually had to insert the silicon tips first and then plug the Solaris bore into them. When you take them off, no way around it they will stay stuck and you’ll have to clumsily put them out
Second, as pointed by @Jackpot77 who also has them, the Solaris stick out quite a bit when wearing those so on the go is pretty much a no no I guess...
Now the sound!
It’s clear that you get a much better experience from a full custom seal, the first benefit is obviously isolation which is a step better and bass, yes the Solaris bass take on a new dimension with further detail texture wise and tad more bass impact as well. I need to spend more time but I am also convinced that soundstag and imaging are better as well. I need to spend time with them now and I’ll update my review in a few days.
Now I can imagine what the Solaris would be like in CIEM form and I must say I’d love to get them! (@KB please oh please we want a sequel to the Equinox !)
I never experienced with custom tips for universal before, it’s not totally as seamless as I would have thought to put those babies on... I actually had to insert the silicon tips first and then plug the Solaris bore into them. When you take them off, no way around it they will stay stuck and you’ll have to clumsily put them out
Second, as pointed by @Jackpot77 who also has them, the Solaris stick out quite a bit when wearing those so on the go is pretty much a no no I guess...
Now the sound!
It’s clear that you get a much better experience from a full custom seal, the first benefit is obviously isolation which is a step better and bass, yes the Solaris bass take on a new dimension with further detail texture wise and tad more bass impact as well. I need to spend more time but I am also convinced that soundstag and imaging are better as well. I need to spend time with them now and I’ll update my review in a few days.
Now I can imagine what the Solaris would be like in CIEM form and I must say I’d love to get them! (@KB please oh please we want a sequel to the Equinox
!)Something arrived in the mail today
I never experienced with custom tips for universal before, it’s not totally as seamless as I would have thought to put those babies on... I actually had to insert the silicon tips first and then plug the Solaris bore into them. When you take them off, no way around it they will stay stuck and you’ll have to clumsily put them out
Second, as pointed by @Jackpot77 who also has them, the Solaris stick out quite a bit when wearing those so on the go is pretty much a no no I guess...
Now the sound!
It’s clear that you get a much better experience from a full custom seal, the first benefit is obviously isolation which is a step better and bass, yes the Solaris bass take on a new dimension with further detail texture wise and tad more bass impact as well. I need to spend more time but I am also convinced that soundstag and imaging are better as well. I need to spend time with them now and I’ll update my review in a few days.
Now I can imagine what the Solaris would be like in CIEM form and I must say I’d love to get them! (@KB please oh please we want a sequel to the Equinox
Still I envy you.. (grudge from neighbors thread)
BTW, that's a good looking cable you have there....
@duaned ask David, that Hansound is single crystal Copper cable... compare to stock
Last edited:
Users who are viewing this thread
