Calling All "Vintage" Integrated/Receiver Owners
Apr 5, 2015 at 12:02 PM Post #14,312 of 19,142
  I'm thinking about it. Bit of a commitment though!

You should buy these too... 
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http://app.audiogon.com/listings/full-range-mcintosh-xr5-vintage-full-range-speakers-2015-04-02-speakers-97229-portland-or
 
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Apr 5, 2015 at 12:42 PM Post #14,313 of 19,142
  You should buy these too... 
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http://app.audiogon.com/listings/full-range-mcintosh-xr5-vintage-full-range-speakers-2015-04-02-speakers-97229-portland-or

Or get these - http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/ram/ele/4938088302.html
Slightly smaller, come with the required EQ, recapped, refoamed, just better haha.
Love me some Mc speakers.
 
Apr 5, 2015 at 6:05 PM Post #14,315 of 19,142

If it is in good cosmetic condition, I'd say that is a fairly reasonable price. Do you know if during the recapping process, the infamous Sansui glue was also completely removed?
 
Apr 5, 2015 at 6:08 PM Post #14,316 of 19,142
http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=407467
 
A quick Google search for Sansui AU-717 glue will return many resources for learning about this glue, and it being corrosive over time. It isn't just isolated to the AU-717 either, but was used in a lot of their equipment of that era.
 
Apr 5, 2015 at 6:11 PM Post #14,318 of 19,142
This place, which sells refurbed units at quite steep prices, sold an AU717 for $850. So if the recap was done nicely, $500 is probably very reasonable.

http://www.classicaudio.com/forsale/san/AU717.html
 
Apr 5, 2015 at 6:18 PM Post #14,320 of 19,142
You may want to ask if the output transistors were looked at/checked. Even if they are good, it would be nice if they had been removed, cleaned, and new heatsink compound applied when reinstalling.
 
Other items to ask about would be if the speaker protection relay was checked, and if the bias and DC offset had been set to spec.
 
The AU-717 is a very nice piece of equipment, and its rated 85 wpc is widely believed to be pretty conservative.
 
Apr 7, 2015 at 9:49 PM Post #14,323 of 19,142
Yes, all very good suggestions. I've worked on a few sansui's and the glue is just a pain to remove. And yes, it is very corrosive. I've seen it eat through resistor leads, capacitors and even the pcb itself. Always a good idea to remove that. I'm sure if it was recapped, this probably was done. I would also make sure out of spec resistors and any germanium trannies were replaced. I just recently worked on an au2000 were one 4.7ohm resistor on the driver board was badly out of spec. It caused the bias to be out of whack and made one side of the output transistors run really hot. Setting the bias to factory spec wouldn't make any difference. after about 20 minutes the bias would jump all the way up from 35mv to over 100mv!.
 
So just doing a recap isn't going to make it reliable without giving it a complete going over. With all of that said, if it was recapped and everything else has been brought up to snuff, 500.00 is a pretty good price and would be hard to beat. I hope everything goes well. While I personally haven't heard a restored au717, echowars over at AK, thinks a nicely restored one is everybit as good as much higher regarded vintage gear.
 
Apr 7, 2015 at 10:00 PM Post #14,324 of 19,142
Haven't called yet, not sure I want to do this, as it seems a gamble. Might rather find a beat one for cheaper and get it done up to my spec. Either way, probably looking at at least a thousand I'm guessing. At that point is it worth it? For that money I could pick up a rogue audio integrated with a warranty. Hmm... Does anyone know of a qualified tech in nj?
 

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