Burson V6 Vivid and V6 Classic Discrete Audio Opamps Discussion and Reviews
Jan 24, 2022 at 1:30 AM Post #481 of 537
Thanks to this thread I caved in and got a V6 Classic for my Little Dot, I immediately noticed the improved sound stage and the separations of instruments are much sharper, more distinct. I was able to pinpoint which direction the sound is coming from in my head, perhaps this is what they mean about 3D presentation.

Only 20 hours in, however the noise floor is more audible than before, and it kinds of irk me. Is this normal?
 
Jan 24, 2022 at 4:15 AM Post #482 of 537
Thanks to this thread I caved in and got a V6 Classic for my Little Dot, I immediately noticed the improved sound stage and the separations of instruments are much sharper, more distinct. I was able to pinpoint which direction the sound is coming from in my head, perhaps this is what they mean about 3D presentation.

Only 20 hours in, however the noise floor is more audible than before, and it kinds of irk me. Is this normal?
It's weird but it's not the first time I read people saying the sound is better when brand new. 20 hours is really soon though.. maybe the circuit is not super compatible then
 
Jan 24, 2022 at 10:31 AM Post #483 of 537
Sorry, I wasn't being clear, I did not mean that the noise floor appeared after a few hours. I suspect that's how it sounds right out the box.

The noise floor stays the same regardless of how high the volume is. It's very small, as I had only discovered the low static hum when turning on the amp in the dead of night. Otherwise when its daytime with ambient noise it is very hard to hear it.

Edit: after comparison with other opamps, they all DO produce various degrees of hissing, so the opamps aren't at fault here. Reviews from this thread may suggest the only way to mitigate this is use better amps. I guess that's the difference of a more expensive product, lol.
 
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Feb 20, 2022 at 8:09 AM Post #484 of 537
Hello,

I have WAF Najda DSP which I'm using it as a crossover/DAC/Preamp in front of my power amp.
I've replaced the stock LM833N opamps to the Burson V6 Vivid and I'm pleased with the result.
I'm gonna add MKP10 cap to the Vin+/- to them.
However, I was going to replace all 4 electrolytes around the opamp (they are in the signal path) with Jantzen Superior Z-Cap. Will this be any good for the Burson's? Going from 22uf electro to 2.2uf PP for example.
 

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Mar 6, 2022 at 3:13 AM Post #485 of 537
Replaced the caps with Jantzen. I'm with mixed feelings.
There was a problem with the tweeter (maybe too low a value of 0,82uf) - I had to increase the delay from 24 samples to 280 in order to match the same time alignment.

I'm planning to add caps to the Vin pins of the op-amps, what will you recommend?
I was thinking of Wima MKP 0,1uf + Wima FKP 0,01uf in parallel. Will it be enough?
Subjectively right now I'm that the sound is less powerful. Otherwise, it is more layered, detailed, smoother and tighter. But I'm not liking the feeling of relaxed sound...
 

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Mar 14, 2022 at 10:04 PM Post #486 of 537
Hello Members. Burson Audio reached out to and is giving me the opportunity to try out a couple of their opamps. So of course I will be sharing some photos here. Along with my impressions of the units. Hopefully it will be useful to some people.

Looking forward to tinkering with my amps.
 
Mar 14, 2022 at 11:47 PM Post #487 of 537
Hello Members. Burson Audio reached out to and is giving me the opportunity to try out a couple of their opamps. So of course I will be sharing some photos here. Along with my impressions of the units. Hopefully it will be useful to some people.

Looking forward to tinkering with my amps.
V6 opamps continue to surprise me. Adding my Gustard P26 into my chain today and the increase of raw resolution and detail retrieval is amazing. And the classics are doing something to the midrange of the Koss ESP95X that is making the result reference level quality, instead of slightly woolly and veiled without the opamps in the chain.
 
Mar 15, 2022 at 4:59 AM Post #488 of 537
I hard recommend you to put bypass capacitors to the op-amps Vin.
I've put 100nf caps and after a day of use, I can conclude that there is a consistent perceivable step-up in dynamics and overall snappiness of the sound. A touch more air and overall the music is slightly more engaging.

I'm not sure if additional 10nf faster caps (like FPK1) In parallel to MKP10 will be of benefit.
Last week I've experimented with this setup in an old amplifier where I was rolling some opamps and it was a noticeable improvement to the punch.
However, the Burson improvement was more subdued in comparison to some of the chips where it was dramatic. And in some chips was more or less the same.
 

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Apr 9, 2022 at 11:46 AM Post #489 of 537
Sep 24, 2022 at 12:01 PM Post #490 of 537
V6 Classic is a great Op-Amp. It has higher offset than IC chips, but it has a very full, dynamic timbres, warmer in tone, vivid trebles that is smoother on upper end, doesn’t extend too far as into being sibilants on bad recordings and so on, but definitely will expose those recordings. Soundstage is very holographic, wide in comparison to IC chips. Floor noises is also very low. Placements and positioning are amazingly vivid. Together with the fact that it has a wide range of voltage operations, it can fit in many places, depends on the skills. I do believe that I have made the world first DAP to be able to sport these amazing guys as line buffers, and together with class A discrete output on the Portable Amp itself. The playback time is a killer, but it is very worth it.

Burn in will be with 2 stages: the first stage is when it is freshly installed, it needs about 5 hours to starting to sound good. Then it needs another 150 hours or so to bring more finesses.

it is also recommended with Bypass, and de-coupling capacitors for better dynamic, textures, and responses. Sub-bass is very defined, very deep, dynamic when these are taken care of properly.

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Sep 24, 2022 at 12:39 PM Post #492 of 537
I switched over to the V6 classics in my Whammy (direct coupled) I tried the V6 Vivid but they never jived for me so went back to the classic. Funny thing though around six months later I tried the Vivids again and absolutely loved them lol.
No doubts ! These Burson discrete are a real deal, and amazing for the price/performances
 
Nov 29, 2022 at 2:26 PM Post #494 of 537
I've owned and reviewed V5s and V5i. Burson has always made quality amps and opamps IMO. Always been curious about the V6 Classic, however my current configuration is sounding just fine as of the moment. Only using OPA2132 and have a Muses01 set incoming.
 
Jan 6, 2023 at 1:40 PM Post #495 of 537
How do I identify Pin #1 on the V6 vivid? I have a Burson Conductor 3 Reference and I swapped the 2 singles for Sparkos and I really miss the vivids. I'd like to reinstall them however I am confused. On the Duals the logos both face the same way towards the right when looking at the dac from the front. HOWEVER, the singles were both facing opposite directions. So the labels were both facing outwards. I cant find any way to identify the pins for reinstallations and I am confused. Does Pin number 1 not matter on these?
 

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