Haha, well the first "decent" hQuoteeadphones I got were a pair of Maxell DHPii (Digital High Performance 2) from a local music store in our mall. They came with a great bag, extension, and 1/4" adapter. But as for the important part, to my "analytical" listening, I cant seem to find a set that matches these in the full spectrum. Ive owned them for about 3 months now. Porta Pros (close in bass, but not controlled), HD 238 (close all around but not as "lively"), HD 280 pro (from a freind, just sounded bad to me?), and a random assortment of IEMs (I hate IEMS) have all fallen, in my opinion, short of these cans. Though my new HD 238s are very nice, they still seem less lively than these phones.