Beyerdynamic to launch new top headphone at IFA -- called T1

Jan 30, 2010 at 1:45 AM Post #1,621 of 3,971
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Originally Posted by woof37 /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I keep hoping to see a review along the lines of "more transparent than the D7000 and a bit tighter grip of the low end too" but doesn't seem like the T1 is quite fitting of that. Please keep posting your listening results, folks.


Owning both, I would confirm that to my ears and with my system. The bass may not be as impactful as the D7000s, but the quality, detail, depth, and control certainly is. But in a far more neutral fashion.
 
Jan 30, 2010 at 1:47 AM Post #1,622 of 3,971
Stefan AudioArt :

The Endorphin Beyerdynamic T1 includes custom hand-made/hand-polished ebony wood splitters and until January 31st the pricing includes installation:


Balanced (custom treated Furutech FP-701 xlr connectors):

8-ft - $769.00
9-ft - $799.00
10-ft - $819.00

Thanks for your inquiry

That's as much as the headphone
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Jan 30, 2010 at 1:52 AM Post #1,623 of 3,971
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Owning both, I would confirm that to my ears and with my system. The bass may not be as impactful as the D7000s, but the quality, detail, depth, and control certainly is. But in a far more neutral fashion.


Also owning both, I agree completely.
 
Jan 30, 2010 at 5:18 AM Post #1,627 of 3,971
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Originally Posted by Parafeed /img/forum/go_quote.gif
No matter who is making the comment.
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Heck no, that guy back there's an idiot.










I do like 'em though.
 
Jan 30, 2010 at 8:02 AM Post #1,628 of 3,971
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Heck no, that guy back there's an idiot.


LOL.

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Originally Posted by Tyll Hertsens /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I do like 'em though.


Just out of interest, was that 10 mins listening on a run-in pair or a brand new pair?
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I thought mine were burned-in when I got them, but they're still opening up. I listened to a track again which I listened to the first time I put the T1 on and remember thinking at the time, "who stole the cymbals". Second time around, 50 hours later, I'm thinking, "ah, there they are, but now I wish they were a little less prominent". Mids are more forward now too. As a point of reference, the HD800 never changed that much from the day I got them. I've left the T1's playing music the last few nights, hoping to get them to a point where they are not going to "change" anymore before I make any further comments about them.
 
Jan 30, 2010 at 10:58 AM Post #1,629 of 3,971
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Originally Posted by Seamaster /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Stefan AudioArt :

The Endorphin Beyerdynamic T1 includes custom hand-made/hand-polished ebony wood splitters and until January 31st the pricing includes installation:


Balanced (custom treated Furutech FP-701 xlr connectors):

8-ft - $769.00
9-ft - $799.00
10-ft - $819.00

Thanks for your inquiry

That's as much as the headphone
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Apparently they sort of charge $100 for that small piece of ebony, what bargin lol
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Jan 30, 2010 at 12:25 PM Post #1,630 of 3,971
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Originally Posted by Seamaster /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Stefan AudioArt :

The Endorphin Beyerdynamic T1 includes custom hand-made/hand-polished ebony wood splitters and until January 31st the pricing includes installation:


Balanced (custom treated Furutech FP-701 xlr connectors):

8-ft - $769.00
9-ft - $799.00
10-ft - $819.00

Thanks for your inquiry

That's as much as the headphone
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I'm a cable believer but that pricing is ridiculous.
 
Jan 30, 2010 at 12:55 PM Post #1,631 of 3,971
Maybe it's a strange question : How does T1's diaphragm look like?
Any differences compare to DT880/DT990?

And my friend bring his T1(500 hrs+) to compare with R10 in location meet one week ago, Although it's too suddenly to make a serious AB test, He just wrote his simple impression.gears is Orpheus zero P + one > Rudistor RP010,very hi-end system.

1.Both are very good headphone, major difference is the "sound scape" .

2.R10 have a very 3D-like sound stage, solid image and pinpoint location, you can easily imaging a "stage" in front , you just can see the "stage" clearly.

3.Although not as 3d-like as R10, T1 has very strong airiness feeling which R10 not have,every notes just flow around, yes, T1 can make you feels like "on stage".

4.T1 seems more sensible about the home electric condition , during meeting he just find T1 sounds somehow muddy/lack extend than usual.
 
Jan 30, 2010 at 1:00 PM Post #1,632 of 3,971
do the T1 benefit from a re-cable? such as the Black/Silver Dragon?
 
Jan 30, 2010 at 1:18 PM Post #1,633 of 3,971
After last few hours with them I have changed my mind, and they are really OK to me.
Short characteristic.

- Extremely fast sound. Fantastically quick time of increase, and short reverberations.
- Crystal clear music spectrum.
- No high tones problems. They are smooth, really elevated and spatial.
- Sound is nor wet, nor dry, only very detailed and realistic. Far more than this from DT 880 Pro, which I have to direct comparison.
- Also is deep and colored. Not overcolored, just colored in the best way.
- Musical texture is very good audible. No artificial smoothness.
- Vocals are not recessed at all (although initially they were). They are not as good as with Orpheus or K1000, but very, very good. Clear, textured, with own performer specific. Slightly not enough charming. More realistic than tempting.
- Bass (like everything) is fast and concentrated. Not especially deep and not particularly abundant, but fair. Who want to have more deep bass, must buy PS-1000. Also Ultrasone E8 are more bassy, but I find T1 more interesting headphone than E8.
- Scene is well-made and uncommon, because first of all is a deep. HD 800 plays mostly by sides, T1 mostly on straight. Yet HD 800 scene is bigger, no doubt.

Generally first class high-end headphones. My recommendation.
 
Jan 30, 2010 at 1:59 PM Post #1,634 of 3,971
MacedonianHero (#1605) – „As these are high impedance cans, I would go with tubes as they typically offer better voltage swings which typically synergize better. Or better still, bring both and let us know your thoughts!

This is true in case when you have „chipper“ solid amps. When you insert T1 to very serious solid amp, the problem with voltage swings is past. For exmaple, I practiced with RPX-300, (and head-fi friend with RP 010B) and the reproduction was excellent. Try listen T1 with amps like ZAMA HPA-1 or spoken Rudistor’s.

Tyll Hertsens (#1616), kool bubba ice (#1617) – This is the point of view where people can accept your oppinion and „hate“ you. The HD 800 I hardly use for projects, because they present the sound very analytically, neutral, without colourings, they are „clinical“. For this purpose, they are fantastic, but for audiophile listening you can say dry. But T1 are different, they are more vivacious, very musical, with better bass impact etc etc. It depends what you expect from these two models. But in other words, these two models very depend on used audio devices and re-cabling (balanced HD 800).

Seamaster (#1622) – Stefan Audio produces excellent headphone cables, it is great that they started to produce the cable for T1 too.

SteveM324 (#1630) – Stefan Audio does regular prices, so there is good quality from re-cabling to go to second or third level in my „classification“. So

David.M (#1632) – This answer was said million times and million times other and other people will ask. Re-cabling depends on a lot of variables and you need understand what you want to obtain, how is changed basic characteristics after recabling, technical parameters etc. These two cables are ideal for first to second level in my „classification“. So entry to standard audio devices. The stock cable with T1 is serious quality for this two classes, but the recabling is powerful when you want to „adapt“ the sound reproduction to be more familiar for you, sound tunning, or for tuning for your concrete audio chain.
 
Jan 30, 2010 at 2:16 PM Post #1,635 of 3,971
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Originally Posted by David.M /img/forum/go_quote.gif
do the T1 benefit from a re-cable? such as the Black/Silver Dragon?


Short answer: Way to early to tell.

Longer answer:
When I talked to Drew yesterday, he said he would be receiving about 3 T1s (his first shipment) next week. So I don't think anyone has a Black/Silver Dragon T1. Also I don't think any current T1 users have sent theirs to Drew for recabling. Maybe I'm wrong but I haven't seen any posts about it. Also for people buying the T1 with one of the Dragon cables, they probably haven't heard the T1 with the stock cable to know how the Dragon improves it. Drew doesn't know if the detachable connector is an option until he opens one up so there will not be comparisons to the stock cable for quite some time.
 

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