Beyerdynamic T1 3rd Gen out now

[Skylah]

I listen to a lot more music since getting the Burson............ Be safe.

Safety to me is being able to listen to a lot more music so..

 

[mmmadog]

Safety to me is being able to listen to a lot more music so

I went thru the same thing your talking about. I had Audio gd and Schiits Jot and Bifrost and they all sounded good but I listen to older rock and I thought it's the recordings being bad till I got the Burson which is made in Australia. I can listen to just about anything now without fatigue or getting a headache. My other setups when you turned them up all got harsh sounding. Not with the Burson. The Burson sounds better the more you turn it up. I spent a lot of money getting to this point.

 

[mmmadog]

I'm seriously thinking of getting the T1.3. Was on here to get peoples opinions. I knew I wanted the T1.2 just from peoples reviews.

 

[kman1211]

I went thru the same thing your talking about. I had Audio gd and Schiits Jot and Bifrost and they all sounded good but I listen to older rock and I thought it's the recordings being bad till I got the Burson which is made in Australia. I can listen to just about anything now without fatigue or getting a headache. My other setups when you turned them up all got harsh sounding. Not with the Burson. The Burson sounds better the more you turn it up. I spent a lot of money getting to this point.

Honestly my experience with Schiit gear; I’ve owned a lot of them is they are a bit rough sounding at higher volumes and in general. I’ve been planning on trying different gear, I’ll put Burson on my list of considerations.

My Sansui AU-101s just arrived and it has certainly been an interesting experience with my T1s.

1. Even with my DT880s (600Ω) getting more power than anything the O2 can give it, it's clear to me at this point that the T1 in all aspects is simply the better headphone (except for sound signature, because that's the most subjective part of audio, really)

2. Everything sounds clearer on the Sansui AU-101s, even with the warmer sound signature (which I've attempted to negate by adjusting the bass and treble knobs on the Sansui AU-101, seems to brighten them up a little bit). It's been a double-edged sword, as my initial complaint of poorly-mastered recordings being exposed by my T1s become an even bigger problem, but nicely recorded and mastered recordings (or on the contrary, intentionally noisy and rough recordings) sound even nicer on these cans. Elton John's Bennie and the Jets (1973) has never sounded more lively on any sound system that I've played it on. The melodies on the guitars in Coldplay's Yellow (2000) bleed with emotion outside the noise wall riff the band engages with in the chorus. LOONA's ODD EYE CIRCLE - Girl Front's (2017) bassline however, gets distorted at too low of a volume, despite the girls' vocals sounding incredible, and this seems to be a common theme across more modern recordings.

This could be the output impedance of the AU-101 being much too high for my T1s, but kman runs these through an amplifier with high output impedance with great results, so I suspect it's both the Sansui's warmer sound signature combining with the T1s, as well as more poorly mastered recordings, that end up distorting the lower end.

3. There is a slight improvement in instrument separation, a broader (but not compromised in intimate moments!) soundstage and detail with my AU-101s over my O2s. The O2s may be the better reference amplifier, but these added benefits to my T1s are hard to pass up.

These initial impressions may change within the next week or so. My analytical pads are coming in on Friday, and my NAD M51 DAC sometime next week. The arrival of these two pieces of gear may solve my current issues with the setup, or at least make it better.

It could also be the amp differences. The UDA-1 is a warm sounding amp/dac but I haven’t gotten bass distortion on volumes I listen at, though maybe I listen to it at lower volumes than many people do. I am planning on getting another system for the T1.3 and my other headphones. The Schiit system I have is a mixed bag for all of my headphones. Wish I could audition more gear in person.

 

[FiGuY1017]

I highly recommend the shanling M6 21 it sounds great with T1.3 and Amiron

 

[John Buchanan]

Honestly my experience with Schiit gear; I’ve owned a lot of them is they are a bit rough sounding at higher volumes and in general. I’ve been planning on trying different gear, I’ll put Burson on my list of considerations.



It could also be the amp differences. The UDA-1 is a warm sounding amp/dac but I haven’t gotten bass distortion on volumes I listen at, though maybe I listen to it at lower volumes than many people do. I am planning on getting another system for the T1.3 and my other headphones. The Schiit system I have is a mixed bag for all of my headphones. Wish I could audition more gear in person.

Go with team Burson. At Casa Buchanan, the Conductor Reference 3X is great!

 

[Skylah]

It could also be the amp differences. The UDA-1 is a warm sounding amp/dac but I haven’t gotten bass distortion on volumes I listen at, though maybe I listen to it at lower volumes than many people do. I am planning on getting another system for the T1.3 and my other headphones. The Schiit system I have is a mixed bag for all of my headphones. Wish I could audition more gear in person.

Yepp my AU-101s are literally older than my parents (despite them being serviced), I don't think the engineers accounted for highly saturated, poorly-mastered Korean pop but still sounds nice

 

[Skylah]

I don't plan on it yet but I do plan on buying an Auralic Taurus MKII to compliment my Sansui AU-101s or another high-end solid state amplifier that's on the neutral side of things to compliment it.

 

[FiGuY1017]

I can vouch for the Taurus it's excellent with all of my cans

 

[Skylah]

Pads came in the mail A pain to put them on though, idk if that's just me though

 

[FiGuY1017]

Pads came in the mail A pain to put them on though, idk if that's just me though

There is a small square notch on the diaphragm of the pad, align that and the rest just clicks in place

 

[Skylah]

There is a small square notch on the diaphragm of the pad, align that and the rest just clicks in place

No I tried that and it just wouldn't click in idk why

I got them in eventually

 

[Skylah]

No I tried that and it just wouldn't click in idk why

I got them in eventually

Okay no FiGuY1017 I have to concede that my second time trying that square notch was the one

As for the analytical pads, I didn't give them much time at all - maybe some other time, but I missed the memory foam from the original T1 pads, my headphones feel more secure on my head with them, and they feel nicer to me personally.

As for the sound, I figured out (accidentally) that foobar's volume control at its highest (and controlling my volume completely from the amplifier) was simply too hard to volume control - I felt that I was one turn of the knob away from distorted bass... I turned down foobar to -12 db & it allows me a lot space to control the volume from the amplifier - allowing me to reach volume levels that immerse me in the music as well as avoiding likely bass distortion.

I like the feeling of the bass more on the stock pads - Beyerdynamic really perfected the sound that they were going for with this headphone both driver wise & padding wise

I will keep the analytical pads as a spare for when I give these pads a nice wash later on this year (Australian summer and headphone wearing is a match made in hell, but a necessary one for me), or to explore the sound differences some other time. The foobar volume change was a necessary one, regardless of my amplifier or my padding of choice.

 

[FiGuY1017]

Okay no FiGuY1017 I have to concede that my second time trying that square notch was the one

As for the analytical pads, I didn't give them much time at all - maybe some other time, but I missed the memory foam from the original T1 pads, my headphones feel more secure on my head with them, and they feel nicer to me personally.

As for the sound, I figured out (accidentally) that foobar's volume control at its highest (and controlling my volume completely from the amplifier) was simply too hard to volume control - I felt that I was one turn of the knob away from distorted bass... I turned down foobar to -12 db & it allows me a lot space to control the volume from the amplifier - allowing me to reach volume levels that immerse me in the music as well as avoiding likely bass distortion.

I like the feeling of the bass more on the stock pads - Beyerdynamic really perfected the sound that they were going for with this headphone both driver wise & padding wise

I will keep the analytical pads as a spare for when I give these pads a nice wash later on this year (Australian summer and headphone wearing is a match made in hell, but a necessary one for me), or to explore the sound differences some other time. The foobar volume change was a necessary one, regardless of my amplifier or my padding of choice.

Haa I was sweating as I battled those suckers last night so that's why I said that about the notches, I finally like a trained monkey figured it out and it was alot easier . I had them off because I wanted to try them without the dampening material, since I had never heard a T1 besides the 3rd I wanted to see what that was all about, not bad. Alittle piercing, back on with the damps! Much better.

I was considering selling these honestly because I had returned to my Amiron on my M6 and started to appreciate that mid hump over that bass hump of the T1, but I fell in love agian with the T1 and now question my sanity for even thinking about selling them. I think they are here to stay. Like you said they tuned this headphone for a specific sound,and I could tell that clearly when I tried them with no dampening.

 

[FiGuY1017]

Sorry to double post but I noticed when I took the dampening pads off, the driver baffle started to open, I freaked out never saw that happen before, is that common with Beyerdynamics or are they supposed to be glued?