Beyerdynamic Amiron Home (the new T90)

Dec 12, 2021 at 9:23 AM Post #2,221 of 2,684
Yeah, the DT are studio-graded headphones and the Amiron Home is for home use, as the name is obvious tho so they are in different levels.
The only DT that's not really much a studio-graded one is probably the DT880 250ohm. But yeah, the Amiron Home all the way.
 
Dec 12, 2021 at 4:31 PM Post #2,222 of 2,684
So Amiron home seems to be getting her thumbs up here over the DT177X Go. In most places I’ve heard ppl say that Amiron home is not recommended over the DT1999 or 177X. Interesting. So how does the Amiron home compare with a T1 2nd gen and a T1 3rd gen ? Thank you
 
Dec 12, 2021 at 4:41 PM Post #2,223 of 2,684
So Amiron home seems to be getting her thumbs up here over the DT177X Go. In most places I’ve heard ppl say that Amiron home is not recommended over the DT1999 or 177X. Interesting. So how does the Amiron home compare with a T1 2nd gen and a T1 3rd gen ? Thank you
I haven't tried a T1 3rd gen yet, but it'll be very different. The T1 3rd is meant to be a very warm and thick headphone. Personally just my taste! I'm waiting for a reasonable priced 2nd hand pair to come up here in the UK.

The T1 2nd has similarities, but has better soundstage, imaging, and a wonderful speaker like/holographic presentation. There's nothing left and right about them, the sound surrounds you. If I could have either right now for the same price, I'd take the T1 2nd, but it is softer sounding, almost a slight fuzziness (very slight though). Overall it's a headphone I regret selling and would like again someday. I improved upon my Amiron Home with the Dan Clark Aeon Open X, so I won't be owning the Amiron again (still recommend it though).

People get carried away with the DT 1990 due to the youtube reviews. A lot of people would say get the 1990 having never heard either headphone. The only thing I'd even consider owning the 1990 for is gaming (excellent for gaming). The Amiron Home is a better headphone, it's designed for home use and the tuning is far more enjoyable, it's also one of the most comfortable headphones ever. The 1990 is designed for studio use, the balanced pads ruin the separation, and the analytical pads (my preferred of the two) can be quite piercing in the highs. As for the 177X, I've said my piece on that, the 1770 is better.
 
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Dec 13, 2021 at 2:36 PM Post #2,224 of 2,684
The Amiron Home is for.....home use :P Indeed more enjoyable. i have 6 headphones and i like to swap each after some time and depending on the mood but the Amiron Home is just enticing. Nice punchy warmth and yet the clarity still remains. The DT headphones, especially the 990 are overrated. The least overrated DT is the DT880. i once had the DT770 and boy, the bright sections were fatiguing quickly for me. So far I have 4 Beyers which I'm very happy with and won't be selling any of them. I don't wanna make choices I'll regret later.
 
Dec 13, 2021 at 4:25 PM Post #2,225 of 2,684
So Amiron home seems to be getting her thumbs up here over the DT177X Go. In most places I’ve heard ppl say that Amiron home is not recommended over the DT1999 or 177X. Interesting. So how does the Amiron home compare with a T1 2nd gen and a T1 3rd gen ? Thank you
The others have given you some great information. I prefer the T1 Gen 2 to the Amiron and DT1990 in almost every category I can think of except for comfort compared to the Amiron. The T1 is quite comfortable in its own right though (as is the 1990). The T1 has a noticeable increase in level of refinement, soundstage, and detail retrieval over the other two.

Between the Amiron and 1990 I prefer the Amiron. It's just a smoother and more enjoyable listen to me. Combine that with the comfort and it's one of the best lay back and chill phones I've tried. Despite its laid back character it has a ton of detail also. It's quite nice.

I like the DT1990 last out of this trio but it's still a great phone. It has the best build quality of the 3 actually (all 3 are very well built). It also has the most energetic presentation out of the three. On some genres such as metal, the more energetic presentation makes it really stand out. It's really a great phone except the 8 kHz treble peak can make it fatiguing with some recordings. Not all is lost though, with some eq applied and addition of Dekoni Elite Velour pads (better than both the stock analytical and balanced pads) it becomes excellent. This is especially the case if you try it on tubes. All 3 are very good phones but in the end the T1 Gen 2 is really the one that does it for me.
 
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Dec 14, 2021 at 4:00 PM Post #2,227 of 2,684
Thanks for all the helpful comments. I’ll definitely look to get an Amiron Home or a T1 2nd gen if I can get one similarly priced.

Out of interest. What do people think of the Tygrs?
Tygr is a very good headphone too. It sounds completely different in comparison to the Amiron Home but it's a nice one too. Boomy bass, silky treble and sssibilance is silky smooth, not piercing at all and comfort is excellent.
 
Dec 14, 2021 at 9:28 PM Post #2,228 of 2,684
Just ordered these from NewEgg (great deal, BTW), and they should be here next week. Looking forward to comparing them to the 1990s and using them during the day while I'm working for casual listening.
 
Dec 14, 2021 at 9:41 PM Post #2,229 of 2,684
Just ordered these from NewEgg (great deal, BTW), and they should be here next week. Looking forward to comparing them to the 1990s and using them during the day while I'm working for casual listening.
Which one?
 
Dec 14, 2021 at 9:47 PM Post #2,230 of 2,684
Dec 14, 2021 at 11:17 PM Post #2,231 of 2,684
The Amiron Home (wired) version. Not a fan of wireless headphones for music. :headphones:
Chance is likely you'll like the Amiron Home.
The wireless version can be used wired too.
 
Dec 18, 2021 at 2:10 PM Post #2,232 of 2,684
Chance is likely you'll like the Amiron Home.
The wireless version can be used wired too.

They came early (just after noon today) and I've been listening to them for about 2 hours. I need more time to fully evaluate, but the early impression is that I'm listening to music in a well treated (acoustically) room with a good set of speakers. The sound stage is wide, the vocals are forward, and the details are present but not in-your-face analytical. The mid-bass hump is a bit much, so I'm hoping that will even out a bit with some time.

So far though, I like it. Different experience from the DT-1990 (with balanced pads), but still very nice. :)
 
Dec 18, 2021 at 9:29 PM Post #2,233 of 2,684
They came early (just after noon today) and I've been listening to them for about 2 hours. I need more time to fully evaluate, but the early impression is that I'm listening to music in a well treated (acoustically) room with a good set of speakers. The sound stage is wide, the vocals are forward, and the details are present but not in-your-face analytical. The mid-bass hump is a bit much, so I'm hoping that will even out a bit with some time.

So far though, I like it. Different experience from the DT-1990 (with balanced pads), but still very nice. :)
The Amiron Home is meant to enjoy :P Indeed different from the DT1990 which is a studio headphone.
Not sure if the mid-bass hump is supposed to be there but it's a warmer sounding headphone. It's one of the most nice headphones that can be listened loud without pain. The sound will get better for sure!
 
Dec 19, 2021 at 9:00 AM Post #2,234 of 2,684
Not sure if the mid-bass hump is supposed to be there but it's a warmer sounding headphone.

Keeping in mind that I've only had the DT (studio) Beyer headphones before this one, there is a perceived (to me) mid-bass hump in the sound signature of the Amiron Home. For example (and maybe the best example I've found), when listening to Suite: Judy Blue Eyes by Crosby, Stills, and Nash from the self titled album in 24/192 resolution, when the bass guitar comes in, it is prominent (but not dominant) on the DT-1990 and DT-770. However, for the same track on the Amiron Home the bass guitar is truly dominant (for lack of a better word) throughout the song.

Now, I'm not saying this is a bad thing at all, and one could argue that it's a more natural signature. I was fortunate enough to see CSN perform at Rich Stadium when they toured with the Grateful Dead in 1990, and if my auditory memory serves, the sound is mostly accurate to the live mix. It's absolutely an enjoyable experience, and it takes me back to the live performance, or at least what I can remember of it, so there's that. :smile::v:
 
Dec 19, 2021 at 9:47 AM Post #2,235 of 2,684
Keeping in mind that I've only had the DT (studio) Beyer headphones before this one, there is a perceived (to me) mid-bass hump in the sound signature of the Amiron Home. For example (and maybe the best example I've found), when listening to Suite: Judy Blue Eyes by Crosby, Stills, and Nash from the self titled album in 24/192 resolution, when the bass guitar comes in, it is prominent (but not dominant) on the DT-1990 and DT-770. However, for the same track on the Amiron Home the bass guitar is truly dominant (for lack of a better word) throughout the song.

Now, I'm not saying this is a bad thing at all, and one could argue that it's a more natural signature. I was fortunate enough to see CSN perform at Rich Stadium when they toured with the Grateful Dead in 1990, and if my auditory memory serves, the sound is mostly accurate to the live mix. It's absolutely an enjoyable experience, and it takes me back to the live performance, or at least what I can remember of it, so there's that. :smile::v:
Oh I see. Yeah, the DT1990 and 770 are indeed supposed to be analytical, I mean, they must show any flaw in picture. I had the DT-770 250ohm in the past and I don't like it because too much treble and bass was explosive-boomy. While that bass is fine to me, the treble was fatiguing quickly.

The least analytical of the DT family is probably the DT-880 250ohm. Not fatiguing and everything sounds so...I can't describe it words but it's an ejoyable headphone too. I used it for gaming and music. Although I don't listen to music at all, only when I'm the mood :P But the DT880 is pretty underrated.

What I like about the Amiron Home is that doesn't hurt the ears when listening a bit loud. Of course not THAT loud, like louder than a jetfighter or something :P I put the Gain on 2 and crank up the volume a bit and suddenly the Amiron Home is much more vivid, a lot of hidden details are suddenly coming out of nowhere. Some of the headphones, I haven't them ar high volume yet, can be painful at high levels. Or my ears has been adjusted the past months but I'm sure if listen to my Marshall Mid ANC at high volume, it will be very painful. All of that really means the Amiron Home is one of the most laidback headphones.
 

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