CHIFI LOVE Thread-A never ending IEM-Heaphones-DAP-Dongles Sound Value Quest
Jul 26, 2019 at 6:08 AM Post #18,946 of 31,832
Today I got the NiceHCK NX7.
According to my graphs, the NX7s look like the graphs of the KZ ZS10 Pro. Will it be a coincidence?



I'm very interested in your impressions! I love my **** which also has piezo drivers, though I expect that the stereo phase of the NX7 won't be as good, as the drivers are not all in line with each other.
 
Jul 26, 2019 at 11:57 AM Post #18,947 of 31,832
I've ordered Tennmak Trio (earhead only) and should get them in 3-4 weeks. Any one here who has them and can share few words of wisdom on how they sound, what sort of cable and tips should I pair them with?
 
Jul 26, 2019 at 4:16 PM Post #18,948 of 31,832
I'm sorry, I don't have the zs10 pro, I just saw their graphics and they seemed similar to me. My path and KZ's separated some time ago...



I see you've thought the same as me...

I should have them next week, I'll can compare with zs10 pro and other.
 
Jul 26, 2019 at 5:40 PM Post #18,949 of 31,832
I'm of the impression that IEMs with piezo drivers generally need a fair amount of amping to truly shine for the treble. Is the NX7 drivable from a phone? Or it needs amping?

NiceHCK NX7 vs Moondrop Kanas Pro.png

Since we're talking about the Kanas Pro, which is one of my favorite IEMs, the NX7s are a little harder to move, as you can see from the graph. And the bass and sub bass of the Kanas Pro, are not huge, but they are divine. The NX7 seems to be more focused on the details, but the balance and timbre of the Kanas Pro have dazzled me.
 
Jul 26, 2019 at 9:04 PM Post #18,950 of 31,832
I agree.

I would love to see a earphone with the screw in nozzle filters. But in addition to the nozzle being sound filters, they have a few different lengths to fit different ear anatomies. So imagine something like the ED9 or BGVP DMG, but with some short stubby nozzle filters, and some long nozzle filters. This would not only allow the tuning of the sound profile to an individual’s preference, but the fit as well.

Would the length not effect the sound also tho? (Don't know enough about these things).

Need to find my Trinity Audio Deltas... think they had different lengths.
 
Jul 26, 2019 at 9:15 PM Post #18,951 of 31,832
Would the length not effect the sound also tho? (Don't know enough about these things).

Need to find my Trinity Audio Deltas... think they had different lengths.

Yes, length and diameter of nozzle affects sound. That’s exactly why I propose that they can be used as dual purpose tuning filters as well.
 
Jul 27, 2019 at 7:20 AM Post #18,952 of 31,832
Just ordered BLON BL-03 and TRI i4 (1DD+Knowles BA) from Amazon. Should be interesting!
 
Jul 27, 2019 at 10:59 AM Post #18,954 of 31,832
Philips QC totally sucks. Or the seller had terrible batch of SHE7000. Top one is one I received earlier and the bottom is another one, and there is no consistancy in the response. I wish both sides were responsed like the left side on sample one. I've measured Sony MH755, and they've been consistent, but these on the other hand...

SHE7000 sample 1
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SHE7000 sample 2
Philips SHE7000 sample 2.jpg
 
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Jul 27, 2019 at 12:06 PM Post #18,955 of 31,832
Philips QC totally sucks. Or the seller had terrible batch of SHE7000. Top one is one I received earlier and the bottom is another one, and there is no consistancy in the response. I wish both sides were responsed like the left side on sample one. I've measured Sony MH755, and they've been consistent, but these on the other hand...

SHE7000 sample 1


SHE7000 sample 2
The SHE35xx series have been rock solid for me for decades (literally)
 
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Jul 27, 2019 at 12:32 PM Post #18,956 of 31,832
Yes, length and diameter of nozzle affects sound. That’s exactly why I propose that they can be used as dual purpose tuning filters as well.

Chinese companies aren't going through the effort to make even more little metal parts. At best they would provide longer tips to extend length or put in the little spacer O-rings to use. Japanese have more design chops and many have used the two post method on the bore where you have lips to stop the tip out more and can push it in to the second position. One set of longer two post filters that can be used in both longer and shorter configuration seems doable but the Chi-Fi scene(in general outside of a few) just isn't as inventive as I would like. :)
 
Jul 27, 2019 at 9:12 PM Post #18,957 of 31,832
Philips QC totally sucks. Or the seller had terrible batch of SHE7000. Top one is one I received earlier and the bottom is another one, and there is no consistancy in the response. I wish both sides were responsed like the left side on sample one. I've measured Sony MH755, and they've been consistent, but these on the other hand...

SHE7000 sample 1


SHE7000 sample 2

I’ve noticed that there’s 2 types of SHE7000 - one with a plastic back and one with an aluminum back.

I wonder what the difference is? Is one type genuine and the other type counterfeit? Or different factory? Or cost cutting design changes? Or is there some other explanation for the difference?

Plastic backs:
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Aluminum backs:
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Also, there’s 4 totally different package styles, all (supposedly) SHE7000:
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This 4th package looks to be for an Asian domestic market (maybe Japanese or Chinese), so I’m not counting it with the 3 global packages above:
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Hmmmm...
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Jul 27, 2019 at 9:40 PM Post #18,958 of 31,832
I’ve notices that there’s 2 types of SHE7000 - one with a plastic back and one with an aluminum back.

I wonder what the difference is? Is one type genuine and the other type counterfeit? Or is there some other explanation for the difference? It can’t simply be the color, because there’s black ones with plastic back, and black with aluminum back. Same with white and red colors.

Plastic backs:




Aluminum backs:




Also, there’s 4 totally different package styles, all (supposedly) SHE7000:


This 4th package looks to be for an Asian domestic market (maybe Japanese or Chinese), so I’m not counting it with the 3 global packages above:


Hmmmm...
Indeed. I have gotten couple of those white ones (the ones I've posted measurements of) from the same seller. I just did some research, and it seems there were various versions that came out. The way they label these various versions are like so: SHE7000WT/28 SHE7000/10 .. etc.

This is the one I got, and looks identical including the packaging. Looking at the lesser packing, plastic backing instead of metal, they must have cut cost at some point, and likely QC has suffered as well. This video should be proof that it is a legit unit as it was sold in the store Ross. It seems stores like Ross are places you find these discount deals on cheap iems that didn't get sold at the store initially in stock.

What is really odd about the product in the video is, why is the packaging in Spanish, but being sold by Ross? Very odd..

 
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Jul 27, 2019 at 9:49 PM Post #18,959 of 31,832
Indeed. I have gotten couple of those white ones from the seller. I just did some research, and it seems there are various version that came out. The way they label these various versions are like so: SHE7000WT/28 SHE7000/10 .. etc.

This is the one I got, and looks identical including the packaging. Looking at the lesser packing, plastic backing instead of metal, they must have cut cost, and likely QC has suffered as well. This video should that it is a legit unit as if you look on it, it was sold in the store Ross. It seems stores like Ross are places you find these discount deals on cheap iems that didn't get sold so well from initial stock.



That’s exactly the one I got as well. Same package, same color, etc. I haven’t opened them up or listened to them yet. Hopefully I’ll have time this week to check them out.

I’ll also mention that I’m a tiny bit disappointed that Philips included 3 different color tips. It will make it hard to identify them in my tip rolling collection. I anticipate that the 3 different colors will seem like 3 different tips when mixed into all my other tips. When in reality they’re the same tip just 3 different sizes.
 
Jul 27, 2019 at 10:57 PM Post #18,960 of 31,832
That’s exactly the one I got as well. Same package, same color, etc. I haven’t opened them up or listened to them yet. Hopefully I’ll have time this week to check them out.

I’ll also mention that I’m a tiny bit disappointed that Philips included 3 different color tips. It will make it hard to identify them in my tip rolling collection. I anticipate that the 3 different colors will seem like 3 different tips when mixed into all my other tips. When in reality they’re the same tip just 3 different sizes.
Yeah, it's weird, the different colored tips... Makes no sense.

I found a SHE9000 measurement on Golden Ears, and look at the channel imbalance. It's terrible! It must be that Philips have terrible QC. I don't think I have seen worse channel mismatch than these Philips.

http://en.goldenears.net/18304

I understand it's cheap, but there are others that the measurements are consistent like MH755, which you can get for $5-6. Even KZ (ZS5) although there is a large pit in the response, the channels are still well matched.

Here's a good one. Channels aligned.

http://en.goldenears.net/17113
 
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