Available Now: The Element by JDS Labs

[Packdemon]

Help vote to get the Element to be massdropped: https://www.massdrop.com/vote/jds-labs-dacamps

 

[jseaber]

@Packdemon: Highly unlikely. The Element is already priced aggressively.
 
We have a few B-stock Elements available:
https://www.jdslabs.com/products/158/the-element-b-stock

 

[dullknives]

We have a few B-stock Elements available:

 
can these be configured with RCA/DAC out rather than inputs also?

 

[jseaber]

   
can these be configured with RCA/DAC out rather than inputs also?

 
Yes

 

[Packdemon]

 

Oh well, I guess that was to be expected. I mean with the product being so new, the stock being so little, and it having such a high demand. It really is going to take a while for the market and stock to reach an equilibrium. I have to say that this product has been quite successful for it's fairly young market life so far. I got to hand it to you guys at JDSLabs, you did a really great job.

 

[Packdemon]

Just to be sure, Stock-B only has cosmetic imperfections, nothing that is functionally an imperfection? It should function as well as the regular stock right?

 

[dullknives]

  Just to be sure, Stock-B only has cosmetic imperfections, nothing that is functionally an imperfection? It should function as well as the regular stock right?

 

BRAND NEW WITH MINOR COSMETIC IMPERFECTIONS.​

not yelling, copy and paste from jdslabs.​

 

[Packdemon]

I already read that, like I said just making sure that it's not even the slightest performance hit. 
 
Making sure in and of it's self means that I already know, but that I am still making sure as an knowingly redundant added precaution.

 

[Packdemon]

I wonder if there is a B-Stock for your other items that you sell, too. I haven't found any on the JDSLabs website though. Even this one for the Element I only found because you linked to it: https://www.jdslabs.com/products/158/the-element-b-stock

 

[Deftone]

i need this, problem is import fees to uk will drive the price up a lot and the wait time

 

[loki993]

Thanks for that couldn't pass up the 50 dollar savings for whats probably just a few scratches.

 

[Deftone]

so am i right in thinking this is a re cased objective amp + rev b odac with better nob on top?
 
if its identical i will purchase just for the design

 

[Music Alchemist]

  so am i right in thinking this is a re cased objective amp + rev b odac with better nob on top?
 
if its identical i will purchase just for the design

 
No. Compare the specs:
 
https://www.jdslabs.com/products/151/the-element/
http://www.jdslabs.com/products/48/o2-odac-combo/

 

[Packdemon]

  so am i right in thinking this is a re cased objective amp + rev b odac with better nob on top?
 
if its identical i will purchase just for the design

The amp is different (no longer the objective 2 amp), but the RevB ODAC is more or less the same.

 

[jseaber]

  so am i right in thinking this is a re cased objective amp + rev b odac with better nob on top?
 
if its identical i will purchase just for the design

 
Ha, did this come from Jude's impression?
 

 
Yes, The Element shares the basic topology of O2 (voltage amplification -> attenuation -> current amplification). The chipset and power logic differ significantly. Element's DAC was designed before we moved the PCM5102A+SA9023 to ODAC RevB. Performance differs slightly between the the 2L and 4L implementations.
 
O2:

1. NJM2068+NJM4556 chipset
2. Pusbhbutton and opamp power logic
3. DC Rails: +/-12VDC
4. Max Power = 0.6W @ 32 ohm 

 
Element:
 

1. LME29720+LME49600 chipset
2. Microcontroller + relay power logic
3. DC Rails: +/-15VDC
4. Max Power: 1.1W @ 32 ohm (1.5W peak)

 
Element turns on and off silently. O2 generates a soft click and thump. Element has a huge knob and looks great on my desk; I can't say the same about O2+ODAC.