Audio-Technica debuts three new pairs of headphones ATH-R70x, ATH-M70x and ATH-M50xDG
May 1, 2015 at 11:06 AM Post #256 of 343
   
I don't have ZX2 and never had a chance to listen to it, but from a number of people who did - I heard it's output volume sounds low.  Don't know, maybe they are pushing their amp for a stack up to sell it together :)  But even if your DAP can drive them well, I was able to drive them with X3ii and N6 and AK120ii without a problem, it still sounds better amped.  Not the volume, but the improvement in energy and dynamics, and also bass sounds tighter when amped.  But it needs a good neutral amp, nothing warm or tube.  I used Cayin C5 with it and it's great, but once I switched bass boost on - it ruined the frequency balance.

Thanks for the help.  I just got the shipment.  I have it on max volume and it sounds very low.  My M50x sound high at ~50% volume.
 
May 1, 2015 at 11:11 AM Post #257 of 343
 
   
I don't have ZX2 and never had a chance to listen to it, but from a number of people who did - I heard it's output volume sounds low.  Don't know, maybe they are pushing their amp for a stack up to sell it together :)  But even if your DAP can drive them well, I was able to drive them with X3ii and N6 and AK120ii without a problem, it still sounds better amped.  Not the volume, but the improvement in energy and dynamics, and also bass sounds tighter when amped.  But it needs a good neutral amp, nothing warm or tube.  I used Cayin C5 with it and it's great, but once I switched bass boost on - it ruined the frequency balance.

Thanks for the help.  I just got the shipment.  I have it on max volume and it sounds very low.  My M50x sound high at ~50% volume.

 
Sounds low with ZX2?  I guess that's expected :wink:  Also, you have to take into account output impedance of Walkman.  I assume you already have it on high gain?
 
May 2, 2015 at 1:26 AM Post #258 of 343
Are you getting the R70X Asr? If you are, I look forward to your impressions and review!

 
Yup, it's just a question of when I decide to finally plunk down for it. Have to factor in another amp before I get it though since the Gilmore Lite is underspec'd to deliver much power into a 470 Ohm headphone. I predict that the R70X's amping requirements will ultimately result in its impressions being all over the map on Head-Fi, from people trying to drive it with various amps, not all of which will be successful.... 
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May 3, 2015 at 8:08 AM Post #263 of 343
Nice review. I bought some AKG K7XX from Massdrop for making/mixing music which are essentially 702 AE's. I am very pleased with them but wonder if the R70x may be an improvement?


I'm not sure. I never tried K7xx.
 
May 3, 2015 at 11:43 AM Post #265 of 343
   
I predict that the R70X's amping requirements will ultimately result in its impressions being all over the map on Head-Fi

 
Agreed.
 
May 3, 2015 at 12:52 PM Post #266 of 343
 
   
I predict that the R70X's amping requirements will ultimately result in its impressions being all over the map on Head-Fi

 
Agreed.

 
Not true, as long as you are using a relatively neutral amp (nothing colored) :wink:  I tested my R70x with a number of DAPs, with and w/o amp, and the sound sig is still consistent.  I found it to be not too keen to warm sources or when you switch bass boost on my portable amp, but other than that - it's still a very consistent neutral sig with a natural tonality, great extension at both end of the spectrum, amazing retrieval of details, and excellent airy staging with 3D imaging.
 
May 3, 2015 at 9:03 PM Post #268 of 343
May 4, 2015 at 2:43 AM Post #269 of 343
What about K712 or K702 AE? As these are very similar.

 
Sorry, no idea.
 
 
   
Not true, as long as you are using a relatively neutral amp (nothing colored) :wink:  I tested my R70x with a number of DAPs, with and w/o amp, and the sound sig is still consistent.  I found it to be not too keen to warm sources or when you switch bass boost on my portable amp, but other than that - it's still a very consistent neutral sig with a natural tonality, great extension at both end of the spectrum, amazing retrieval of details, and excellent airy staging with 3D imaging.

 
+1 Agree.
It is not difficult to drive, it is just prefer detailed sounding amps over the smooth warm amps.
 
 
How is it compared to Q701? I want to upgrade to a slightly warm sound.any thoughts?.....

 
Haven't tried Q701, but I do prefer this over the original K701. R70x has more midrange and bass body.
You can read my review and twister6 review to get better idea of how it sounds.
 

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