[lag0a]

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Originally Posted by les_garten /img/forum/go_quote.gif TEMPS: TOP 105 Sides 109 Bottom 122 Front 109 DSP Chip 115 DAC Chips 127 Transo Reg Boards 116 .

Are these idle temperatures for the ref1? Do those numbers increase if you play music for a few hours for the load temperature?

 

[Pricklely Peete]

Those are steady temps I think. I never noticed any fluctuation during use or idle. Then again my measurement tool is +-10% tolerance ( pinkie)

It doesn't fluctuate. It only starts to sound right or it's best after a good 45min or so have passed FWIW.

Peete.

 

[Mik]

I notice the Ref1 price just went up. It was USD$1390 when I ordered mine two weeks ago. Now it's USD$1550. I guess the promo price is over. There appears to be a Ref1 lookalike without DSP1 for USD$1100 now (DAC-9MK3).

 

[Pricklely Peete]

For those that would like the HDCD function with the PMD100 chip. I think it's a good move. Like all promo's that period comes to an end eventually. 1.5K is still a bargain for the RE1 IMO.

It's too bad HDCD didn't get more support than it did. The real solution is to move the standard to 24/96 and not saddle it with any hardware needs that mean closed loop encrypted media and expensive proprietary players to listen to it (SACD/DVDA/ Blue Ray...HD Audio) sigh...that will likely never happen except online among the fringe like it is now. Stuck with 16/44 for another 20 years....(maybe).

Peete.

 

[The Monkey]

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Originally Posted by Mik /img/forum/go_quote.gif I notice the Ref1 price just went up. It was USD$1390 when I ordered mine two weeks ago. Now it's USD$1550.

Silly move right before CanJam.

 

[haloxt]

Very good move actually, methinks they will sell like hotcakes even at 1550.

 

[Tachikoma]

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Originally Posted by Pricklely Peete /img/forum/go_quote.gif I just have to shrug my shoulders to this...tell you what why don't you email Kingwa and tell him exactly where he's gone wrong...I mean you obviously have the answers on how things SHOULD be built. Go right ahead he's a nice guy and will listen. Maybe in 5 or 6 years when the design is through testing you can buy it. Always a bright side. Peete.

I'm not saying liquid cooling is the answer though, thats just how I would deal with it in my own rig =P Kingwa just has to know that there is a problem, and I'm sure he's smart enough to figure out a more feasible solution.

 

[Progenitor]

I am wondering if any of you who owns the reference 1 have owned the OMZ Zhaolu DAC before? I have to admit feeling a bit of upgraditis hitting me either for my amp or for my DAC.

 

[The Monkey]

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Originally Posted by haloxt /img/forum/go_quote.gif Very good move actually, methinks they will sell like hotcakes even at 1550.

All depends how the thing sounds.

 

[les_garten]

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Originally Posted by The Monkey /img/forum/go_quote.gif All depends how the thing sounds.

It's been rated highly here, better than the NS 192 you are well familiar with. Did you decide to keep the Northstar?

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[The Monkey]

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Originally Posted by les_garten /img/forum/go_quote.gif It's been rated highly here, better than the NS 192 you are well familiar with.

Yeah, I'm going to wait for a bigger sample size.

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Did you decide to keep the Northstar? .

I still have it, but I'm thinking about selling it and keeping the ECD-1. Who the hell knows anymore.

 

[les_garten]

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Originally Posted by The Monkey /img/forum/go_quote.gif Yeah, I'm going to wait for a bigger sample size. I still have it, but I'm thinking about selling it and keeping the ECD-1. Who the hell knows anymore.

Ahhh, interesting, thought you were leaning the other direction .

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[The Monkey]

I was, I was. Then I got a switchbox and started A/Bing and changed my opinion. I have my 2 main BigRig amps coming soon, so a final decision will be made then.

But I'll continue to follow this thread with interest.

 

[Pricklely Peete]

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Originally Posted by Tachikoma /img/forum/go_quote.gif I'm not saying liquid cooling is the answer though, thats just how I would deal with it in my own rig =P Kingwa just has to know that there is a problem, and I'm sure he's smart enough to figure out a more feasible solution.

Peete.

 

[les_garten]

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Originally Posted by Pricklely Peete /img/forum/go_quote.gif Peete.

Speaking of temps, mine is back down and I figured out why. Somewhere along the way i had turned off the Ceiling fan. That room houses a lot of HIGH Heat gear and there was not much air movement. Turned the FAN on and everything is a ton cooler. About 10 degrees F. I have not re-shot them all, just used Drosera's Method

He's got a Ph.d and it's good enough for him. I did dip my hand in boiling water just prior to measuring for calibration purposes though. I know that's going the extra mile, but that's how we roll here!

On a side excursion, I'll schedule a re-shoot of the temps since it seems there was a pretty significant change.

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