[combat fighter]

I'm interested in getting a NFB-28 but would like to know if there a 2015 edition coming out soon?

 

[zeissiez]

Isn't that such a rare commodity in the audio market? Maybe Kingwa is the only one. He doesn't make grandiose statements about his products. He doesn't try to sell you the most expensive product he produces with wild claims about how the most expensive thing will produce x, y, and z sound characteristics like you've never heard.

I have a lot of respect for that attitude, and it's certainly becoming rarer to find. 

Despite the success of his business, Kingwa sticked to his DIY-ish approach to his business. He doesn't try to sell the most expensive gear, nor creating big buzz about this products. Headfi is moving towards the direction of Hifi. Expensive and flashy gears with strong marketing lines are shaping up good business, AGD is rarity.

 

[zeissiez]

The master 9 is $1550 and NFB-27 is $1530 it's just for $20
in your opinion what is the best ? M9 or 27

PS: I have Bifrost from schiit as a DAC

U need something at least of the quality of a Ref5/Gungnir to match a Master 9

 

[Dopaminer]

Despite the success of his business, Kingwa sticked to his DIY-ish approach to his business. He doesn't try to sell the most expensive gear, nor creating big buzz about this products. Headfi is moving towards the direction of Hifi. Expensive and flashy gears with strong marketing lines are shaping up good business, AGD is rarity.

 
Agreed, and love `em, but I wish they`d do a polished and/or matte bare metal case, instead of that relentless black....

 

[gevorg]

Maybe somebody else who has actually tried the Bifrost can give their thoughts.

I haven't heard the Bitfrost, but I heard the higher tier Mjolnir/Gungir combo on two head-fi meets, and preferred my previously owned NFB-28 to them. The Audio-GD sound was smoother and easier to listen to, while the Schiit combo was brighter and more forward/aggressive sounding (sorry for the lack of better/proper words). The Schiit was decent, but not great for my tastes/preferences/etc.

To compare with Master 9, I think the equivalent amp in the Schiit line is Ragnarok. Would be one hell of a battle.

 

[zach915m]

I haven't heard the Bitfrost, but I heard the higher tier Mjolnir/Gungir combo on two head-fi meets, and preferred my previously owned NFB-28 to them. The Audio-GD sound was smoother and easier to listen to, while the Schiit combo was brighter and more forward/aggressive sounding (sorry for the lack of better/proper words). The Schiit was decent, but not great for my tastes/preferences/etc.

To compare with Master 9, I think the equivalent amp in the Schiit line is Ragnarok. Would be one hell of a battle.

I've heard both the Bi-Frost/Lyr and the Mjolnir/Gungnir and owned those set-ups as well as the NFB-28 and NFB 10.33.  I would love to hear the Rag and the 9 side by side though, that would be a hell of a shoot-out.
 
As far as Schiit VS Audio-GD, I feel as if they both have a house sound and they both do that sound incredibly well.  The Schiit sound to me is a little punchier, stronger and has a larger soundstage, while the Audio GD sound is smoother, has a blacker sense of space, and more liquid/forward mids and engaging qualities to the sound.

 

[chewynuts]

Looking to purchase an NFB-28 if anyone is looking to upgrade. Thanks!

 

[Clemmaster]

 
I've heard both the Bi-Frost/Lyr and the Mjolnir/Gungnir and owned those set-ups as well as the NFB-28 and NFB 10.33.  I would love to hear the Rag and the 9 side by side though, that would be a hell of a shoot-out.
 
As far as Schiit VS Audio-GD, I feel as if they both have a house sound and they both do that sound incredibly well.  The Schiit sound to me is a little punchier, stronger and has a larger soundstage, while the Audio GD sound is smoother, has a blacker sense of space, and more liquid/forward mids and engaging qualities to the sound.

 
The Ragnarok has more liquid mids than Master-9.
More cohesive sound overall, while the M9 focuses more on separation.
 
Sold the M9 and kept the Rag in the end. Better match with HE-6 for my tastes. Did not get to use the M9 with ACSS, though (I have a M7).

 

[zach915m]

   
The Ragnarok has more liquid mids than Master-9.
More cohesive sound overall, while the M9 focuses more on separation.
 
Sold the M9 and kept the Rag in the end. Better match with HE-6 for my tastes. Did not get to use the M9 with ACSS, though (I have a M7).

Good to hear!  I think I'll be able to hear the Rag at some point but not sure about the master-9.  I'm really curious how the NFB-28 would match with the Ragnarok as a DAC.  Of the amps I've owned Schiit and Audio-GD are at the top of the list, both fantastic yet different companies.

 

[cutterfilm]

I've been looking to upgrade and have been reading a lot about the NFB-28. The reports of clicking sounds during listening is making me hesitate. How prevalent is the problem? Is it just isolated to a few units?
 
Other units I've been considering: Bel Canto 2.5, Mytek 192 DSD, and Yulong DA8.
Any comparisons would be really helpful, too!

 

[zach915m]

  I've been looking to upgrade and have been reading a lot about the NFB-28. The reports of clicking sounds during listening is making me hesitate. How prevalent is the problem? Is it just isolated to a few units?
 
Other units I've been considering: Bel Canto 2.5, Mytek 192 DSD, and Yulong DA8.
Any comparisons would be really helpful, too!

The only time I've heard clicking was when my computer was under-powering the USB ports or I needed to update my UDB drivers.  I don't think the clicking stuff is always Audio-GD, if at all.  Ofcourse I could be wrong.

 

[xxxfbsxxx]

  I've been looking to upgrade and have been reading a lot about the NFB-28. The reports of clicking sounds during listening is making me hesitate. How prevalent is the problem? Is it just isolated to a few units?
 
Other units I've been considering: Bel Canto 2.5, Mytek 192 DSD, and Yulong DA8.
Any comparisons would be really helpful, too!

i did not have clicking issues when i still owned the nfb28 ??

 

[cutterfilm]

  I have a problem with NFB 28.
Between an audio track and the next, I hear a click digital, only from the left channel audio.
I have the same problem with the "low to high gain and reverse" the remote control.
I wrote a Mr.Kingwa, following his answer ..
It is possible that I have to hear this "digital click" between two audio tracks?
 
No one has had the same problem?
Thank you, Roby.
 
 
Kingwa's reply:

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Dear Sir,
The click sound is the mute sound.
The NFB28 for the better sound quality, the mute design by the relays, not like other brands applied the logic chips.
So if change the files types, the mute will active and after the music playing it will stop mute.
You can try to take off the headphone, change the music, listen on the NFB28 see if can hear the relays click sound from inside.
Kingwa

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This was this click that I read about.
 
 
Happy to hear reports of it not being an issue.
 
Besides overall sound quality through both speakers and headphones, I need variable volume XLR outputs. Looking for overall neutrality and good resolving.

 

[catcherfly]

Hi Everyone,
Can someone explain how to change the variable line level to a fixed line level on the NFB-28?
Thanks in advance!

 

[dziki]

.... It should also cut down on noise, which is my only complaint.

 


Hi jodgey4,

What kind of noise you are talking about ? is it the transfo noise ?