Audio GD NFB-11.28 vs R2R 11
Mar 7, 2018 at 7:24 PM Post #1,156 of 2,569
I'm still confused about this "popping" issue.
  • Does it only happen when switching to a track that is a different file type or resolution (e.g.: switching from 16/44 to 24/96)?
  • Or does it happen in between tracks that are the same size, and even on the same album?
I plan on primarily listening via my MacBook, streaming TIDAL. Am I going to hear "pops" between every track on an album?
 
Mar 7, 2018 at 7:33 PM Post #1,157 of 2,569
I'm still confused about this "popping" issue.
I plan on primarily listening via my MacBook, streaming TIDAL. Am I going to hear "pops" between every track on an album?
No,in fact mine no longer pops at all.
 
Mar 7, 2018 at 10:28 PM Post #1,159 of 2,569
Nope ,found this review tho


EDIT; I'm holing off on them converters for now ,I had good results with TosLink optical connection in the past and will try same route once I get R2R 11
TosLink is/was limited by some hardware mnf. to 96 kHz in order to ensure smooth transfer but it's capable of 192 KHz I have and set 196KHz option in W7x64 via TosLink -not susceptible to radio interference (Bluetooth )


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I'm 100% satisfied with the improvement I've noticed from the Schiit Eitr. I wasn't sure how it would improve on the setup I had, but it absolutely did. If anything it simply clears things up a little bit, revealing that little bit more detail. Felt like a great upgrade for the price.
 
Mar 8, 2018 at 5:27 PM Post #1,161 of 2,569
Hi, nice review and feedback. Have you encountered any of the DSD playback issues with your R2R? For example, mine sometimes ‘shrieks’ as well as pops before it starts to play a DSD. There’s also some low level noise artefacts when playing back some DSDs (especially quieter sections). An easy one to hear it on is the DSD version of Amber Rubarth’s “Sessions from the 17th Ward” (DSD128). Play the song “Hold On” and turn the volume up and tell me what you hear...

Currently trying to resolve the issue with Audio-GD. Suspect it’s an Amanero issue and hopeful it will only need a firmware fix, otherwise there’s going to be a bunch of R2R-11s going back RMA...

Well i think i experience the same issues with DSD. I can hear low level noise artifacts, like digital jitter on low level parts of some DSD songs. As i said i cannot play DSD256 and DSD512 because foobar throws me an error. If anyone could be so kind to lead me to a proper configuration. Is DSD256 and 512 supported in the R2R 11?
 
Mar 8, 2018 at 5:31 PM Post #1,162 of 2,569
Well i think i experience the same issues with DSD. I can hear low level noise artifacts, like digital jitter on low level parts of some DSD songs. As i said i cannot play DSD256 and DSD512 because foobar throws me an error. If anyone could be so kind to lead me to a proper configuration. Is DSD256 and 512 supported in the R2R 11?
I think we need to make more of a noise about this (excuse the pun). The R2R-11 is getting a free pass around here as a superb dac worth far more than its asking price - and I believe rightly so - but it has a critical flaw if, like us, you enjoy your DSDs. The frustrating part for me is that PCM playback is perfect, so clearly there's a disconnect somewhere with the so-called "native" DSD support. Also, as far as I know, it only supports DSD256 (and then only on Windows). I can play up to DSD128 on my Mac via DoP.
 
Mar 8, 2018 at 5:55 PM Post #1,163 of 2,569
Well in my case i experience this now. DSD up to 128 plays fine with DSD Asio driver on foobar2000. Up to 256 and 512 throws an error about unsupported rate. But if i change in the SACD plugin the output from DSD to PCM then i experience two things: first now my DSD256 and DSD512 plays fine but i guess they are being undersampled to 352000hz. And also, and this is quite strange, the low level noise artifacts are completely gone. Now i have cristal clear sound....
 
Mar 8, 2018 at 9:50 PM Post #1,164 of 2,569
Hello all,

Has anyone here directly compared the NFB-11 or R2R-11 to Schiit's products? I currently use the Modi Multibit DAC & Magni 3 amp and am wondering if the the Audio-GD NFB-11 or R2R-11 would be an upgrade or just more of a sidegrade.
 
Mar 8, 2018 at 10:08 PM Post #1,165 of 2,569
Well i think i experience the same issues with DSD. I can hear low level noise artifacts, like digital jitter on low level parts of some DSD songs. As i said i cannot play DSD256 and DSD512 because foobar throws me an error. If anyone could be so kind to lead me to a proper configuration. Is DSD256 and 512 supported in the R2R 11?
USB PCM model: 44.1kHz, 48kHz, 88.2kHz, 96kHz, 176.4kHz , 192kHz, 352.8kHz,384kHz
USB DSD native mode: DSD64 , DSD128, DSD 256 .
Coaxial model: 44.1kHz, 48kHz, 88.2kHz, 96kHz, 192kHz
Optical model: 44.1kHz, 48kHz, 88.2kHz, 96kHz
 
Mar 8, 2018 at 10:16 PM Post #1,166 of 2,569
Hello all,

Has anyone here directly compared the NFB-11 or R2R-11 to Schiit's products? I currently use the Modi Multibit DAC & Magni 3 amp and am wondering if the the Audio-GD NFB-11 or R2R-11 would be an upgrade or just more of a sidegrade.

I use your current setup and will let you know...got an NFB-11 on the way.
 
Mar 8, 2018 at 10:38 PM Post #1,168 of 2,569
I briefly used an LCX and Klipsch Heritage amp...and returned both for being far too "warm and gooey" compared to my Mimby/Magni 3 combo, which I think sits as just around 'colder' without getting into sibilance, especially on a crisp set of cans like my HP-3. I am worried the NFB might be even more glare-ish, but I really like the output switch...I hate unplugging my headphones to use speakers.

Anyways, those are my sonic preferences.
 
Mar 8, 2018 at 10:42 PM Post #1,169 of 2,569
Good to know. I was using the Mimby & Vali 2 and sold the Vali 2 after getting the Magni 3 for similar reasons. I definitely preferred the clarity & crispness of the Magni 3 over the Vali 2. This is probably why I personally prefer the HD660S over my older HD650 (which I plan to sell also).
 

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