I would never feel comfortable saying that, but besides being unkind, it would undoubtedly be untrue as well. I could say the same about myself, but I think I have a few more miles to go.
The K-1000 is outdated because of its age? Well, I suppose there's a point there. After all, the ESL-57 is a genuine antique these days and who would want to listen to those? That aside, I was thoroughly impressed with the LCD-2 at CanJam. Impressed enough to push my "buy" button. They are very good headphones, some of the best I've ever heard. The JH13 is in the queue ahead of the LCD-2 (I've been subsisting on the e3c for portable use, and need an upgrade), but should have a pair some time this year. I'll try a direct comparison on one amp - the Si2A3 has speaker taps on the back for the K-1000 and the LCD-2 can be plugged in up front. I'm reasonably sure I'll love the LCD-2, but even then, the K-1000 will have to be removed from my cold, dead hands.
The K1000s were state of the art for many years. I'm afraid their day has come and gone for me. I still have them, but driver technology, as good as it was almost 30 years ago, is not as good or capable as the best of today's planar magnetics. The LCD-2s are easier to drive, have better low end, mids, and high end response. The LCD-2 drivers are much lower moving mass and larger diaphragms. Modulation distortion is far lower, etc. One could go on and on... The K1k were great in their day, but their day is over, IMHO.
I haven't heard the LCD-2s, but the K1000s only weigh 370g (including stock cable) vs. 550g (without cable) for the LCD-2s. No matter how good the LCD-2s sound, I can't imagine that I would put up with wearing them for any length of time.
Oh you'd be surprised how well they sit after a while. I wear the LCD all day/night and usually wear them in bed before nodding off.
As to LCD Vs K1k, I love both but the AKG was impractical as they are just 'too open' for practicality. I'm a big fan of the K1k and owned two sets, and they are still very special. I have to say that, for me, the LCD is the better sounding of them overall. Within their limitations the K1k is still outstanding, if picky. They were always a huge hit at meets and I wish I could still justify having a set.
The K-1000 is outdated because of its age? Well, I suppose there's a point there. After all, the ESL-57 is a genuine antique these days and who would want to listen to those? That aside, I was thoroughly impressed with the LCD-2 at CanJam. Impressed enough to push my "buy" button. They are very good headphones, some of the best I've ever heard. The JH13 is in the queue ahead of the LCD-2 (I've been subsisting on the e3c for portable use, and need an upgrade), but should have a pair some time this year. I'll try a direct comparison on one amp - the Si2A3 has speaker taps on the back for the K-1000 and the LCD-2 can be plugged in up front. I'm reasonably sure I'll love the LCD-2, but even then, the K-1000 will have to be removed from my cold, dead hands.
No, it has nothing to do with age per se, it has to do with obsolete technology which yields sub par performance.
In the case of the K1000, the concept is still SOTA, but the driver technology, as advanced as it once was, has been surpassed by virtually every technology currently being used in production. This is not to say the K1000 couldn't be updated with new technology, because it sure could!
BTW, the ESL-57s still have life left in 'em, and they of course, have been updated a couple of times by Quad.
Do these have better soundstage and more natural sounding than the K1000? I wonder how they can excel the K1000 cause the K1000 pretty much trashes any other current headphone in the market on these features...
Do these have better soundstage and more natural sounding than the K1000? I wonder how they can excel the K1000 cause the K1000 pretty much trashes any other current headphone in the market on these features...
The K-1000 is outdated because of its age? Well, I suppose there's a point there. After all, the ESL-57 is a genuine antique these days and who would want to listen to those? That aside, I was thoroughly impressed with the LCD-2 at CanJam. Impressed enough to push my "buy" button. They are very good headphones, some of the best I've ever heard. The JH13 is in the queue ahead of the LCD-2 (I've been subsisting on the e3c for portable use, and need an upgrade), but should have a pair some time this year. I'll try a direct comparison on one amp - the Si2A3 has speaker taps on the back for the K-1000 and the LCD-2 can be plugged in up front. I'm reasonably sure I'll love the LCD-2, but even then, the K-1000 will have to be removed from my cold, dead hands.
I agree with Uncle Erik. My LCD-2s have not arrived yet, but I can't ever imagine partinfg with my AKG K1000, especially now that I am running them from my just arrived from Germany SAC/AKG K 1000 amp (which is also more than capable of running the LCD-2 and has the outputs forc omparison with other phones)
I find that silly when you have people who easily prefer the DT48 (oldest headphone ever) over newer more 'advanced' headphones like the 701. LeJaz comes to mind... Are you seriously telling me the HP1/2/NAGRA DT48S/K1000/PS1/340/R10 are all 'obsolete?' Sorry.. But I really expected much more from you instead of planar bias..
I don't see planar being the end all, regardless how good they are.. They were never popular in the consumer market.. Theres a reason Yamaha stopped making them. Only geeks like us drooled over Ortho's.. The rest easily prefered dynamic & never looked back.
Is a 65 Mustang obsolete to 2000 Honda accord?? The K1000 obsolete!!! un real.
No, it has nothing to do with age per se, it has to do with obsolete technology which yields sub par performance.
In the case of the K1000, the concept is still SOTA, but the driver technology, as advanced as it once was, has been surpassed by virtually every technology currently being used in production. This is not to say the K1000 couldn't be updated with new technology, because it sure could!
BTW, the ESL-57s still have life left in 'em, and they of course, have been updated a couple of times by Quad.
I find that silly when you have people who easily prefer the DT48 (oldest headphone ever) over newer more 'advanced' headphones like the 701. LeJaz comes to mind... Are you seriously telling me the HP1/2/NAGRA DT48S/K1000/PS1/340/R10 are all 'obsolete?' Sorry.. But I really expected much more from you instead of planar bias..
I don't see planar being the end all, regardless how good they are.. They were never popular in the consumer market.. Theres a reason Yamaha stopped making them. Only geeks like us drooled over Ortho's.. The rest easily prefered dynamic & never looked back.
Is a 65 Mustang obsolete to 2000 Honda accord?? The K1000 obsolete!!! un real.
I am sorry, but I don't recall anyone saying that "planar" was the end all.
Can you refresh my memory? Oh, and where's this supposed planar bias you mentioned?
By "these", i am asking if the LCD would be better than K1000 in soundstage and realism (more speaker like) cause these are K1000 strengths and why many people love them.
The K-1000 is outdated because of its age? Well, I suppose there's a point there. After all, the ESL-57 is a genuine antique these days and who would want to listen to those? That aside, I was thoroughly impressed with the LCD-2 at CanJam. Impressed enough to push my "buy" button. They are very good headphones, some of the best I've ever heard. The JH13 is in the queue ahead of the LCD-2 (I've been subsisting on the e3c for portable use, and need an upgrade), but should have a pair some time this year. I'll try a direct comparison on one amp - the Si2A3 has speaker taps on the back for the K-1000 and the LCD-2 can be plugged in up front. I'm reasonably sure I'll love the LCD-2, but even then, the K-1000 will have to be removed from my cold, dead hands.
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