Audeze LCD-MX4

[Anjolie]

I heavily doubt their "very similar to the LCD-4" is going to cost the same as the LCD-3.

If it's an extra efficient LCD-4, I'd peg it to relate to be a minimum $3,000.

$3,000

Let me consult the all knowing Magic

Me: "Will the new LCD-MX4 cost $3,000?"

Magic : "Very doubtful"

Well, there you go

 

[Bacon Bits]

Imo it's either going to replace the lcd x in price or be priced at $1200

 

[ajreynol]

Imo it's either going to replace the lcd x in price or be priced at $1200

Hell no.

The +$200 headband guarantees it costs at least $2k. That's the minimum here. Lighter, easier to drive, similar to the existing 4...$3000-$3500.

 

[SomeGuyDude]

$3,000

Let me consult the all knowing Magic

Me: "Will the new LCD-MX4 cost $3,000?"

Magic : "Very doubtful"

Well, there you go

Depends on if it is to the LCD-4 what the X is to the 3 or not.

 

[knopi]

There is something seriously wrong with the headphone world nowadays if $2k is considered cheap.

Very well written. Yes but you know rich people with Dave(Davies) etc. will support this so sadly it will hardly stop. Progression of the headphones moved forward, but big problem is that models are not replaced by improved technology like in other segments but in the way that the new model cost 2x-3x-4x more, ridiculous, it has no boundaries already, a sensitive assessment of cost quality performance is not. Unfortunately HiFiMAN Audeze started this and now everyone joining even IEM segments, kind of sad becouse headfi forum helped all of them to get there...

Anyway LCD MX4 looks very tempting to me and finally it looks like first realy finished product form Audeze, but 4 number looks there a little scary

 

[SomeGuyDude]

Y'all need to remember absolute vs relative.

$2k is damn expensive. $2k compared to $4k is not. Think of it like cars. If you're looking at a $100,000 sports car, a Dodge Hellcat for $70k is pretty cheap, despite still costing twice as much as what tons of people make in a whole year.

People need to stop acting like flagships are anything but exotic boutique products. For every Susvara and Utopia there are a billion cheaper alternatives. No one is obligated to buy them, nor are consumers entitled to be able to afford the most expensive thing a company has to offer. It's not like lower cost products are vanishing.

The only people who complain about the upward creeping of flagships, in the face of all the Monoprices and Massdrops offering products for cheaper than ever, are people who feel hell-bent on always having "the best" but now it's harder and harder to afford "the best" because they're costing insane amounts.

Just because HFM or Audeze charge an arm and a leg on their TOTL products doesn't mean any of the stuff down the line is gone. You are more than welcome to buy that instead. The tippy top products exist for a small subset of the consumer base. That's why you can't find an LCD-4 in a store. They're made on demand. The Utopia didn't make the Elear go away.

I may never even get this because holy crap $4000 is a lot of money, but its existence isn't a detriment to what costs less. These products aren't causing lower-cost models to vanish. Audeze has ALWAYS made boutique products. The LCD-2 was, what, $1500 or so when it first came out? Now they have the $400 Sine and the two iSine models that are closer to consumer prices. HiFiMan still makes everything down to the HE-400 and paired up with Massdrop for even cheaper items.

I could understand the complaint if this was happening at the expense of affordable products, but it's not. These are happening in addition to. Audeze didn't replace the 2 or 3 with the 4, the 4 happened alongside the 2 and 3. This stuff is bonus. It's companies making crazy stuff for people who have the money to burn. Relax.

 

[514077]

Y'all need to remember absolute vs relative.

$2k is damn expensive. $2k compared to $4k is not. Think of it like cars. If you're looking at a $100,000 sports car, a Dodge Hellcat for $70k is pretty cheap, despite still costing twice as much as what tons of people make in a whole year.

People need to stop acting like flagships are anything but exotic boutique products. For every Susvara and Utopia there are a billion cheaper alternatives. No one is obligated to buy them, nor are consumers entitled to be able to afford the most expensive thing a company has to offer. It's not like lower cost products are vanishing.

The only people who complain about the upward creeping of flagships, in the face of all the Monoprices and Massdrops offering products for cheaper than ever, are people who feel hell-bent on always having "the best" but now it's harder and harder to afford "the best" because they're costing insane amounts.

Just because HFM or Audeze charge an arm and a leg on their TOTL products doesn't mean any of the stuff down the line is gone. You are more than welcome to buy that instead. The tippy top products exist for a small subset of the consumer base. That's why you can't find an LCD-4 in a store. They're made on demand. The Utopia didn't make the Elear go away.

I may never even get this because holy **** $4000 is a lot of money, but its existence isn't a detriment to what costs less. These products aren't causing lower-cost models to vanish. Audeze has ALWAYS made boutique products. The LCD-2 was, what, $1500 or so when it first came out? Now they have the $400 Sine and the two iSine models that are closer to consumer prices. HiFiMan still makes everything down to the HE-400 and paired up with Massdrop for even cheaper items.

I could understand the complaint if this was happening at the expense of affordable products, but it's not. These are happening in addition to. Audeze didn't replace the 2 or 3 with the 4, the 4 happened alongside the 2 and 3. This stuff is bonus. It's companies making crazy stuff for people who have the money to burn. Relax.

True. I enjoy my X, everyday. Those boutique products are in the 'wouldn't it be nice, but not necessary,' price range.

 

[SomeGuyDude]

True. I enjoy my X, everyday. Those boutique products are in the 'wouldn't it be nice, but not necessary,' price range.

Exactly. I love my X. I'd looooove these, but I have a set of what would be flagships for any other brand. The existence of the 4' and MX4 doesn't make my X vanish. All I lose is that smug feeling of "I have the best they make." I'm willing to accept this.

 

[Anjolie]

Exactly. I love my X. I'd looooove these, but I have a set of what would be flagships for any other brand. The existence of the 4' and MX4 doesn't make my X vanish. All I lose is that smug feeling of "I have the best they make." I'm willing to accept this.

All very true and when my LCD-X is finally in my hot little hands, I'm sure I"ll love them and think they're the best.....or not. "Best" is purely subjective no matter the price tag. The "best" could be a $100 headphone or it might be that TOTL $4,000 headphone. You just never know. Humans are naturally curious. Even if I think that what I have now is the best, I just can't help wondering if the latest shiny new phone of the month could be even better and bring me that much closer to audio nirvana

Sorry. Rambling. Must've been tofu I had for dinner

 

[SomeGuyDude]

All very true and when my LCD-X is finally in my hot little hands, I'm sure I"ll love them and think they're the best.....or not. "Best" is purely subjective no matter the price tag. The "best" could be a $100 headphone or it might be that TOTL $4,000 headphone. You just never know. Humans are naturally curious. Even if I think that what I have now is the best, I just can't help wondering if the latest shiny new phone of the month could be even better and bring me that much closer to audio nirvana

Sorry. Rambling. Must've been tofu I had for dinner

I think we all have that problem.

I'm curious especially if the MX4 is more efficient. Like if it'll mix with my Deckard.

 

[I g o r]

I think we all have that problem.

I'm curious especially if the MX4 is more efficient. Like if it'll mix with my Deckard.

It will be much more efficient, probably about the same as the X, because audio engineers in studios do not have powerful or even dedicated headphone amps.

It should be a MIX of the X and 4, hence the name MX4.

 

[SomeGuyDude]

It will be much more efficient, probably about the same as the X, because audio engineers in studios do not have powerful or even dedicated headphone amps.

It should be a MIX of the X and 4, hence the name MX4.

That definitely sounds up my alley, unless it really is built for studio use. If that's the case, I'm thinking the tuning will be something other than what I'd want out of an Audeze product.

 

[I g o r]

That definitely sounds up my alley, unless it really is built for studio use. If that's the case, I'm thinking the tuning will be something other than what I'd want out of an Audeze product.

Reading the older LCD-PRO thread, some folks tried an earlier model (it was announced as PRO a few months back at CanJam), and said that it had nice bass (non Fazor) and was neutral. But it didn’t have the LCD-X resolution and extension. Audeze reps told the Pro was aimed at 1200 USD price range. So it’s something between LCD-2 and X sound and pricewise.

But that was an early prototype, and now things could have changed. At least the name did.

 

[SomeGuyDude]

Reading the older LCD-PRO thread, some folks tried earlier models (it was announced as PRO in a few months back at CanJam), said that it had nice bass (non Fazor) and was neutral. Although it didn’t have the LCD-X resolution and extension. Audeze reps told the Pro was aimed at 1200 USD price range.

But that was an early prototype, and now things could have changed. At least the name did.

I remember the Pro thread, yeah. If it's being called an MX4 that tells me things have changed significantly and they're aiming up at the 4 area instead of down around the 2. That's why I'm ultra curious. A supercharged X would very much be something I'm interested in, but if it's just the old Pro I'm not.

 

[ahmadfaizadnan]

There's a reason that it's named MX4. I bet it'll be above 2k but we'll see