Audeze LCD i4 TOTL In-Ear Monitor Discussion
Aug 3, 2022 at 5:36 AM Post #4,338 of 4,799
The Weiss 501 and 502 DACs also have Audeze’s EQ presets built into them. Check 8:10 in the below video:


That's like someone telling me whaty favourite food is
 
Aug 4, 2022 at 3:52 AM Post #4,339 of 4,799
The Mojo2 only supports bass and treble shelf EQ filters. The i4 needs band filters in certain areas, which the Mojo2 doesn’t have. So it is not possible to even remotely replicate Audeze’s cipher/preset EQ correction on the Mojo2.
Take a look at my avatar photo. Honestly I have, what to me is an awesome presentation, with just 5 band eq adjustment, the portable tube sound, and the stock Shanling m8 sound. I'd choose this over cipher for detailed listening day in and day out. I sit back and just enjoy details down to deep bass. So, EXACT Audeze eq isn't necessarily required for great sound
 
Aug 6, 2022 at 10:16 AM Post #4,340 of 4,799
I honestly wish I could find a cipher cable for sale. That’s one of the main reason that I don’t use the i4 with my iPhone.
That's the problem about niche products. If they are not profitable the producer and the dealers fastly loose interest in the product itself and the accessories. For years I've tried to get a replacement for my broken cipher cable (in my oppinion of low quality compared to the i4) . Given the price of this product audeze acts unfair with regard to accessories. On the other side, using a first class android player (I have a fiio m15) with USB Audio Player Pro with its great Param. EQ, sounds way better than any Iphone with cipher cable. And you get independent from Audeze.. at least as long as the IEM don't let you down.
 
Aug 6, 2022 at 10:35 AM Post #4,341 of 4,799
If you contact audeze, do they not sell you one?
 
Aug 6, 2022 at 10:41 AM Post #4,342 of 4,799
If you contact audeze, do they not sell you one?
i4 was out of stock at some point along with cable but I would assume now that they are back the cable should be too.
 
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Aug 6, 2022 at 11:00 AM Post #4,344 of 4,799
They discontinued the wired Cipher to lightning cable
Get an EQ with reveal? I'm pretty sure the cipher settings are on it
 
Aug 6, 2022 at 11:38 AM Post #4,345 of 4,799
I have an ISine cipher cable as a backup and can’t really tell much of a difference sound-wise between that and the i4/i3 Cipher cable.

You can regularly find iSine 10’s with Cipher (and sometimes with Cipher Bluetooth cable also) for under $200. Keep the Cipher cables and resell the iSine iem.
Of course you can do the same with an i3 if you find one on EBay since the Cipher cable is the same for i3/i4.
 
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Aug 6, 2022 at 2:36 PM Post #4,346 of 4,799
I have an ISine cipher cable as a backup and can’t really tell much of a difference sound-wise between that and the i4/i3 Cipher cable.

You can regularly find iSine 10’s with Cipher (and sometimes with Cipher Bluetooth cable also) for under $200. Keep the Cipher cables and resell the iSine iem.
Of course you can do the same with an i3 if you find one on EBay since the Cipher cable is the same for i3/i4.

They don't share the same frequency response.
 
Aug 6, 2022 at 5:21 PM Post #4,347 of 4,799
The raw frequency measurement of the i4 and iSine 10 is not an exact match but quite similar where a user can compensate with the frequency sliders on the Audeze app. The Cipher cable for the i4 and i3 are the same.

Has @KMann ever posted the Reveal compensation EQ for the iSINE 10 and i4?

Here is the frequency responses and compensation curves via autoEQ.
 

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Aug 7, 2022 at 1:19 PM Post #4,348 of 4,799
The best portable solution I've found for HQ sound for the i4 is with my LG G8X. It has a very good built in ADC/DAC. I think this is almost as good as having a dedicated Hi end DAP. I use the Wavelet ap for its built in EQ for i4 and then USB audio player pro as my player. The DAC has three power settings, the middle and highest setting are both very good at driving the i4s. Another great portable option for me, yet a clear step down, is the cipher cable with my iPhone X.
 
Aug 8, 2022 at 11:35 AM Post #4,350 of 4,799
Massive difference
Jk
Is that worded that they are the same cables?
 
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