Audeze LCD-2 Orthos

[Shahrose]

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I'm a little worried with LCD-2 'potential' (cause I don't have yet) clamping.  We will be able to bend the headband or metal or something  little like HD650 so it won't clamp so much?

As someone who eventually let go of the HD650 partly due to their unbearable clamp, I can say that I can deal with LCD-2's clamp fine. As it's been said, it's not neither too clampy or too loose. 

I must say if you let go of the 650s for that reason, you let go of them too soon. The 650s take about two weeks to loosen up and then, unless you're a total balloon head, they become one of the most comfortable phones ever manufactured. Or...you can just bend the metal. I fail to understand why this is such an issue with so many people (and I won't get into the subject of a certain amount of clamping force being necessary to maintain bass response). 

 
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[RedBull]

So dBel84, how do you say vocal transparency comparing those two? LCD-2 and K1000, just vocal, as I'm pretty sure LCD-2 bass kill K1000 by a long shot?

 

[jermng]

My LCD-2s are here!!  
 
They sure packed it really well - it was 3 boxes, one in another, before I finally got to the wooden box which contains the headphones. 
 
Had a quick listen this afternoon and I have to say I am floored. At first I was worried from people saying there was a lack of treble and detail, but to my ears, there was enough of everything to make it sound really sweet!!
 
In fact, any more treble and it would have been too much for me. Detail wise, I could hear the detail even in the reverb of Celine Dion's "Because you loved me" and other vocal tracks that I'm actually able to hear the decay, reverb time and pre-delay ..... It kinda sounds close to my Adam speakers in my studio.
 
With my current herd of headphones and IEMs, I don't think anything comes close.
 
I have to admit I haven't heard the HE-6, Stax or any other higher end headphones, but to me, this is as good as it gets and yes, I am very happy!!
 

 

[RedBull]

Congrats jermng!!   but I envy you

  Thanks for the quick impression.

 

[rolotube]

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I'm a little worried with LCD-2 'potential' (cause I don't have yet) clamping.  We will be able to bend the headband or metal or something  little like HD650 so it won't clamp so much?

As someone who eventually let go of the HD650 partly due to their unbearable clamp, I can say that I can deal with LCD-2's clamp fine. As it's been said, it's not neither too clampy or too loose. 

I must say if you let go of the 650s for that reason, you let go of them too soon. The 650s take about two weeks to loosen up and then, unless you're a total balloon head, they become one of the most comfortable phones ever manufactured. Or...you can just bend the metal. I fail to understand why this is such an issue with so many people (and I won't get into the subject of a certain amount of clamping force being necessary to maintain bass response). 

 
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x3.  I've only had the LCD2 for about a month & whilst they much heavier than the Senns, to me the comfort level of both is about the same.  I don't find either excessively clampy or uncomfortable & can easily wear them for 2 hours + without  fatigue.
 
Regarding differences in sound, they are certainly evident, but I won't be letting the Senns go anytime soon.  On certain recordings, I prefer the HD650's for their very spacious soundstage which the LCD2's don't quite match.  However, in terms of resolution & accuracy, I'm hearing subtle details & nuances with the LCD2 that have never before been audible with my gear.  Audibly lower distortion & bass that is stunning in its depth & clarity also raise the LCD2 above anything else I have heard. 
But they are both excellent headphones & I enjoy listening to them equally.
 
As others have observed, perception is very much in the ears (& mind) of the listener.

 

[vrln]

LCD-2 are on their way... Fedex says it´s currently on their delivery vehicle! 

 

[K_19]

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I'm a little worried with LCD-2 'potential' (cause I don't have yet) clamping.  We will be able to bend the headband or metal or something  little like HD650 so it won't clamp so much?

As someone who eventually let go of the HD650 partly due to their unbearable clamp, I can say that I can deal with LCD-2's clamp fine. As it's been said, it's not neither too clampy or too loose. 

I must say if you let go of the 650s for that reason, you let go of them too soon. The 650s take about two weeks to loosen up and then, unless you're a total balloon head, they become one of the most comfortable phones ever manufactured. Or...you can just bend the metal. I fail to understand why this is such an issue with so many people (and I won't get into the subject of a certain amount of clamping force being necessary to maintain bass response). 

There's a few reasons at work here from my perspective (which I should have mentioned earlier, to be fair):
 
- I owned the HD650's for a year or so, and they never really loosened up enough to be comfortable for me. Trust me, I gave it plenty of time.
- Bending the metal, from my experience, was a temporary solution, not a permanent one.  The metal headband actually has strong memory and always bends back in its original shape after a few days. Didn't like having to do that once every few days.
- The leather pads of the LCD-2 seemed to give me more "give" and less pressure that the HD650 velours put on side of my face.  For the same reason, I actually prefer the pleather pads of HD25 over velour... most velour pads seem a little too hard for my liking.
- I actually do have a larger head than average, I think.
- This is more of a personal reason, but I do have problems with headphones that have oval-shaped cups in general, due to me having a minor case of TMJ. Those type of pads unfortunately line along my jaw line, making it painful. 
- LCD-2's pads have wider contact surface, which seemed to distribute the pressure more evenly.

 

[jermng]

After listening to the LCD-2s for a few hours in the afternoon and a few hours at night, they continue to amaze me sonically ....
 
However, I notice my neck tends to get sore which gives me a slight headache .....  I think it's the weight of the headphones. I have no issues with the clamping force - it feels pretty comfortable on my head.
 
I'm hoping my neck just needs some time to get used to the extra weight on my head ..... 
 
Anyone else experience similar neck/shoulder strain using the LCD-2s?

 

[MuppetFace]

So, my replacement blocks finally arrived after over two months of waiting for them. Great!
 
Except the new screws that attach them to the headband have been left out. ....Oh, come on!
 
Until they arrive I can't do a damn thing. The old screws are too big and wont fit in the new blocks all the way. Now my LCD-2 lies disassembled in its box, as I realized the screw issue after the fact. No real point in reassembling them either, since the old blocks are totally broken now.
 
Heaven knows when Audeze will get around to sending these screws out now. Either way, this is the longest I've ever had to go without being able to use a pair of headphones I've paid for after purchasing them.

 

[sachu]

That sucks . Hope they get on the ball here.

 

[NapalmK]

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After listening to the LCD-2s for a few hours in the afternoon and a few hours at night, they continue to amaze me sonically ....
 
However, I notice my neck tends to get sore which gives me a slight headache .....  I think it's the weight of the headphones. I have no issues with the clamping force - it feels pretty comfortable on my head.
 
I'm hoping my neck just needs some time to get used to the extra weight on my head ..... 
 
Anyone else experience similar neck/shoulder strain using the LCD-2s?

Yep at least for the first couple of days. I'm accustomed to the weight now. What really throws me for a loop now is putting on one of my lighter cans.

 

[BK_856er]

 
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So, my replacement blocks finally arrived after over two months of waiting for them. Great!
 
Except the new screws that attach them to the headband have been left out. ....Oh, come on!
 
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You might have received the audeze email that the screws were being sent separately.  I received mine a couple days after receiving the blocks.  I would check with them to make sure.
 
One option is to get some suitable 4/40 machine screws locally - it's a common size.  Scroll up to see my example pics.  My blocks also came without screws, but I substituted something else to get back to listening.
 
BK
 

 

[oqvist]

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After listening to the LCD-2s for a few hours in the afternoon and a few hours at night, they continue to amaze me sonically ....
 
However, I notice my neck tends to get sore which gives me a slight headache .....  I think it's the weight of the headphones. I have no issues with the clamping force - it feels pretty comfortable on my head.
 
I'm hoping my neck just needs some time to get used to the extra weight on my head ..... 
 
Anyone else experience similar neck/shoulder strain using the LCD-2s?

Now what you talk about. Only solution for me is to use them less. But it works like a charm.
 
Muppetface I got a second parcel from Audeze today with the screws. So you will just have to b patient. Same with the UPS tracking number. It usually take at least a day for it to show up in the tracking system.

 

[Danz03]

I didn't get the screws with my new blocks either, hope they'd come soon. 

 
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Muppetface I got a second parcel from Audeze today with the screws. So you will just have to b patient. Same with the UPS tracking number. It usually take at least a day for it to show up in the tracking system.

 

[vrln]

LCD-2 has landed. First impression is that they are worth the hype. I´ll post more when I´ve done some thorough testing. What I can already say is that the HD 800 are sold. They are not the perfect flavor, but they are an almost perfect flavor for someone with my preferences. These are turbocharged HD 650´s.