Br777
Headphoneus Supremus
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got my 20's. sending them back. The sound without the cyper is not salvageable. the mids are very honky, the highs are too much, and there's not enough bass.
eq alone can't tame them, especially mids issues. There is just way too much echo/reverb in the sound tube. I understand now why their dsp for the cypher cable is so complex. The stock sound is a mess.
with the cypher cable, huge improvement, but still needs work. still not enough bass, highs still too sparkly, and mids still not right. still a bit honky. I am sure i could get a passable eq setting eventually, but there is no way i could get the 1/8 cable sounding anywhere close to the eq'd cyper cable. For me that's a deal breaker.
If these had the sound of the cypher cable without the cypher cable, I'd probably keep them, eq them to my liking and be quite pleased.
Overall these just can't compete with my westone es5 customs (also eq'd slightly)
that said, they are very comfortable, and fit well easily. I could only get the ear hooks to work. they are not so easy to get off and on though i'm sure i'd get used to it.
the flat cable is annoying, it's not flexible enough.
These have potential, but for now, to my ears, they are too flawed.
eq alone can't tame them, especially mids issues. There is just way too much echo/reverb in the sound tube. I understand now why their dsp for the cypher cable is so complex. The stock sound is a mess.
with the cypher cable, huge improvement, but still needs work. still not enough bass, highs still too sparkly, and mids still not right. still a bit honky. I am sure i could get a passable eq setting eventually, but there is no way i could get the 1/8 cable sounding anywhere close to the eq'd cyper cable. For me that's a deal breaker.
If these had the sound of the cypher cable without the cypher cable, I'd probably keep them, eq them to my liking and be quite pleased.
Overall these just can't compete with my westone es5 customs (also eq'd slightly)
that said, they are very comfortable, and fit well easily. I could only get the ear hooks to work. they are not so easy to get off and on though i'm sure i'd get used to it.
the flat cable is annoying, it's not flexible enough.
These have potential, but for now, to my ears, they are too flawed.