m-i-c-k-e-y
Headphoneus Supremus
Try UAPP, HibyMusic or Neutron MP
Try UAPP, HibyMusic or Neutron MP
Yes, it very much matters.If my phone is connected to a DAC via USB does it make any difference which app I use?
Nope.Aren't they all going to send the data as-is down the USB port?
Yes, it very much matters.
Nope.
What are the ones which aren't sending it as-is doing?
Because it's easy and cheap.Why are they doing it? Why don't they stop doing it or provide an option?
No I don't, however it is very safe to say that UAPP has been the de facto standard for bit perfect Android audio over USB for many years now, but other apps such as the ones @m-i-c-k-e-y listed for you are also good, and I'd add Onkyo HF Player to that list. Those apps use a custom USB driver to bypass the stock Android audio stack and the forced resampling, thus you can play both PCM and DSD at their native sample rates over USB with an external DAC.You're a man of few words - care to wave a URL in my face?
They are using the Android audio stack, which depending on the exact phone and Android version, will always resample the data to the native sample rate of the phone's onboard DAC chip. Very often that is 48kHz, however even if it's 192kHz like it is on some devices such as my Moto X, it's still arbitrarily resampling for no good reason and sound quality suffers as a result.
Because it's easy and cheap.
No I don't, however it is very safe to say that UAPP has been the de facto standard for bit perfect Android audio over USB for many years now, but other apps such as the ones @m-i-c-k-e-y listed for you are also good, and I'd add Onkyo HF Player to that list. Those apps use a custom USB driver to bypass the stock Android audio stack and the forced resampling, thus you can play both PCM and DSD at their native sample rates over USB with an external DAC.
Just about anyone who ever dropped the princely sum of $9 on UAPP finds it to be about the best 9 bucks they've ever spent, if bit perfect playback of both PCM and DSD over USB using an Android device is the goal.
Certain Samsung, and LG devices (going all the way back to the LG G2 which was the very first if I'm not mistaken) have a native music player app that uses a custom USB driver and thus do not automatically resample everything.
Is there a way to check if an Android app is doing this properly?
You will need to take that one to a KODI thread, however the short answer is KODI should work right if you have the proper settings and plug-ins installed (DSD playback likely requires a plugin for instance).And I'm currently investigating repurposing an old laptop to use Kodi on Linux as a source; is there something I need to check there to avoid the same problem?
Only if the connected DAC has some kind of LED or other display that reveals the playback sample rate, that's the only way to confirm.
UAPP tells you in the UI what sample rate the external DAC is playing, and if you have a display on the DAC itself, it always agrees in my experience using UAPP since 2013. So with that one, various members here will vouch, you can use a DAC with no sample rate indicator and have blind faith belief that UAPP is actually telling you the truth.
You will need to take that one to a KODI thread, however the short answer is KODI should work right if you have the proper settings and plug-ins installed (DSD playback likely requires a plugin for instance).
OK, I bought UAPP and it seems to work and indicates that I can use the DAC properly.
That's too bad, there are good quality generic OTG cables available on that auction site, albeit slow delivery time. If you are in a hurry and the available connectors are a fit for your DAC/phone, the iFi OTG cables are nice and don't exactly break the bank.Unfortunately the lead I bought failed after only a few hours (thought I'd broken the DAC for a moment) so i'll have to return it and get another one somehow which lasts more than half a day.
Good deal, you can't go wrong with UAPP, the developer is very responsive in the UAPP thread on this forum, or via their support channel. Which DAC are you using?
That's too bad, there are good quality generic OTG cables available on that auction site, albeit slow delivery time. If you are in a hurry and the available connectors are a fit for your DAC/phone, the iFi OTG cables are nice and don't exactly break the bank.
Hi all,
Have a huawei p30 (non pro model with HP jack), just curious if anybody has got any feedback on dacs which work with the p30 (UK model) especially interested in dongle type ones like the DF red for example
Cheers
Barely any decent DACs work with Huawei devices because of their stupid software.
Best advice I can give is to ditch that phone as soon as you can, and leave that terrible company behind. For all you know it could have already stolen most of your identity by now, and sent your details to Chinese servers without you knowing. Just get anything else, OnePlus, Essential Phone, Xiaomi... There are plenty out there.
There is a couple of dongles you could try, like the old Tempotec/Sonata HDII, or a Sorbiter one off Amazon. I can definitely tell you that barely any 3rd party dongle works properly with Huwaei, you'll have way more headaches than success.
Hi all,
Have a huawei p30 (non pro model with HP jack), just curious if anybody has got any feedback on dacs which work with the p30 (UK model) especially interested in dongle type ones like the DF red for example
Cheers
Has anyone used one of the cheap "Onn" Walmart brand tablets with a USB DAC and USB Audio Player Pro?