Android phones and USB DACs
May 21, 2014 at 11:26 PM Post #4,786 of 9,526
Well as much as I want to, I want it to run it off its own battery. But this is what the seller had told me:
 
" And yes D-zero still drains the battery when it's on charge off mode. "
 
I don't really know how bad it is but I'm taking precaution since the parts you need for it is around $20 total with a decent 2800 mah USB battery anyway. Not bad if it means extended hours of listening through this portable setup!

 
Ah, gotcha! Makes sense now. To my knowledge (happy to be corrected if I'm mistaken), I don't believe the D-Zero pulls current from the phone when playing unless it's set to charge. I didn't listen to mine for any extreme listening sessions, as I recall, but I don't remember the battery draining any faster with the D-Zero hooked up (charge off) than without it. Of course, this was with the S3, which didn't have stellar battery life to begin with-- but that would seem to make it more susceptible to battery drain. 
 
I'll keep my fingers crossed that you don't have any issues, but as you mentioned, it doesn't appear to be a big financial hurdle to covering your bases either way. Definitely keep us informed on how you get on :wink:
 
May 22, 2014 at 12:43 AM Post #4,787 of 9,526
  I have a Surface Pro 2, but I used to listen music from my phone because it is always with me.

 
I use my phone at home on the go but I found that Dell tablet and its dock interesting for home use because this is how my set-up looks like at home:
 


 
Before I saw that Dell tablet I was planning on using the Galaxy Note, which has the advantage of having its sync port on the wide side - a music player app in landscape means I can have album art on one side and a track list (or even content navigation) on the other half, depending on the player of course. The Dell tablet has that, plus a dock that I think should make it easy to add additional storage (will still keep my Android and its microSD for use on the go of course) where my music can be, since it has an Atom processor and a full MS Office suite, I think I can use it in place of my laptop as well. I'll just have to not have any light gaming on this tablet netbook (well, maybe a PS emulator for Marvel Superheroes and Battle Arena Toshinden), and get used to firing up the gaming rig when I edit photos (no matter how much more convenient a built in SD card reader on a laptop is vs my next build, which will use cases that don't even have ODD slots, ergo no flush-fitting card readers either).
 
Of course I'll wait and see first, especially since my laptop is still working great. I don't really replace my laptops until not even a reformat can make them run smoothly (newer apps take more power, processor is really worn from all-nighters and these don't have the same coolers as on desktops, etc).
 
May 22, 2014 at 3:41 AM Post #4,788 of 9,526
A list of stock Android-powered devices reportedly interworking with standard USB DAC:
stock Android device > digital USB audio out >> standard USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
http://goo.gl/ksoF0d
 
A list of USB Audio Player PRO resources (compatible USB DAC, compatible Android devices, ...):
http://www.extreamsd.com/USBAudioRecorderPRO/
 
A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy S3:
stock Samsung Galaxy S3 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> standard USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
http://goo.gl/yBKivk
 
A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy Note2:
stock Galaxy Note2 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> standard USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
http://goo.gl/Ga1jYw
 
A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samung Galaxy S4:
stock Samsung Galaxy S4 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> standard USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
http://goo.gl/dIwrqp
 
A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy Note3:
stock Samsung Galaxy Note3 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> standard USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
http://goo.gl/7Bvkhz
 
A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samung Galaxy S5:
stock Samsung Galaxy S5 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> standard USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
http://goo.gl/zUjud0
 
A list of standard USB DAC reportedly non-interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy S3 / Note2 / S4 / Note3 / S5 using USB Audio Recorder PRO /  USB Audio Player PRO:
http://goo.gl/kHJmfE

 
A list of USB OTG cables:
http://goo.gl/4JyOe5
 
FAQ:
http://goo.gl/A4dCnP
 
The basics:
http://goo.gl/MCFY2x
 
May 22, 2014 at 6:19 AM Post #4,789 of 9,526
Acer Iconia Tab A500 & USB Audio Player PRO:
http://www.tellementnomade.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=232565#p232565
 
Acer Iconia Tab A500 tablet using UAPP >> HiFimeDIY Sabre USB DAC >> RSA SR-71B amp >> HiFiMAN HE-400 headphones
 
 

 

 
In stealth mode, amp & DAC are wedged between the tablet and its case.
 
May 22, 2014 at 8:43 AM Post #4,790 of 9,526
For OTG cables, I bought a .5m Lindy Mini B to Micro B cable for 7GBP. It works fine and isn't as long as I expected it to be. Would have preferred a shorter cable but the cheapest I could find was 45 euros. I'm using velcro to keep the HRT microstreamer attached to my laptop/phone. Be careful not to buy too strong of velcro though. I bought the strongest strength and it's overkill. The velcro is easy enough to remove and clean off the clue if you want to resell.
 
May 23, 2014 at 8:53 AM Post #4,791 of 9,526
I can confirm the iDSD Nano works with an unrooted Google Nexus 7 2013 on stock Android 4.4,
USB OTG cable and USB Audio Player Pro software required.
LED color on iDSD corresponds with actual output as well.
It's a shame I can't use Neutron player.
 
May 24, 2014 at 3:46 AM Post #4,792 of 9,526
iDSD Nano also working with stock unrooted Note 3, does not require UAPP and works with all players. Not yet tried a DSD test file from UAPP though.
 
May 24, 2014 at 4:00 AM Post #4,793 of 9,526
Can somebody kindly direct/or upload me a DOP2FLAC test file? Was trying to place a DSD on a FLAC container using DanBa's link. Trying to test my Geek Out thru UAPP. File created won't output audio. Want to confirm if my procedure is at fault or the device. Thanks!

Sent from my Samsung Note 3 using Tapatalk Pro
 
May 25, 2014 at 4:03 AM Post #4,794 of 9,526
Hi there, how are the following DAC's working under Android (especially Xperia-Z) :  StonerAccustics UD110v2
How is it compared to the Audioquest Dragonfly?
 
The UD100 used the same ESS-Sabre Chip, and therefore shouldn't work without the use of UAPP, but what about the PCM5102-based DACs?
Would be great if someone tried them both out :)
 
 
Thank you.
 
May 25, 2014 at 4:33 AM Post #4,795 of 9,526
  Hi there, how are the following DAC's working under Android (especially Xperia-Z) :  StonerAccustics UD110v2
How is it compared to the Audioquest Dragonfly?
 
The UD100 used the same ESS-Sabre Chip, and therefore shouldn't work without the use of UAPP, but what about the PCM5102-based DACs?
Would be great if someone tried them both out :)
 
 
Thank you.

The UD100 works natively without the need of UAPP on the sony z and sp,but UAPP makes it shine!!
 
May 25, 2014 at 6:29 PM Post #4,797 of 9,526
sorry not sure,I was lucky and nabbed one of Gumtree!
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May 26, 2014 at 4:03 AM Post #4,798 of 9,526
 
The Xperia Z using USB Audio Player PRO (UAPP) should work with a Sabre U2 Asynchronous USB DAC without using a powered USB hub because:
 
. the USB audio soft driver of UAPP can drive the HiFimeDIY Sabre U2 asynchronous USB DAC:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/4560#post_10492989
[thread search using the search keyword "U2"]
 
. the Xperia Z can work with a 500 mA-required USB DAC like FiiO E17 without using a powered USB hub (i.e. the Xperia Z can work with any compatible USB DAC, as 500 mA is the maximum current a standard USB DAC can draw from a USB host like the Xperia Z).
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/3435#post_9967852
[thread search using the search keywords "Xperia Z"]
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/3300#post_9905127
[thread search using the search keywords "500 mA"]
 


Hi,
 
i received mi hifimedy u2 but i can't get it to work.
the app uapp tells me that it can't get enaught power. could try with a hub but then it is not portable enought for me :s
does anybody have an idea.
the dac worked with a note 3.
 
May 26, 2014 at 9:41 AM Post #4,799 of 9,526
You could try attaching the U2 via OTG to the phone, then restart the phone with the DAC attached, see if it will power it then. I've no evidence to support that it will, but you'll never know it doesn't unless you check.
 
Be advised that on my phone, Moto G, all of the phones audio (music, video, games, ringtones, notifications, alarms etc.) is routed to my USB DAC (Stoner Accoustics UD110) when restarted with the DAC attached. I never did get around to checking if incoming calls could be heard thru the DAC or if the mic would work with the DAC attached from boot. Oh and video can act a bit weird (playback is sped up) after booting with USB attached, but having said that I am unable to reproduce it on my phone just now.
 
I've effectively retired my Moto G as a "phone" proper nowadays, and instead stuck a data SIM inside, and just use it as a DAP with a mobile internet connection (Spotify Premium by and large) that I attach to a powered hub when using a DAC so that it won't totally thrash the phones battery.
 

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