Android phones and USB DACs
Feb 11, 2017 at 8:34 PM Post #8,731 of 9,526
128GB? Wow, now that You mentioned it, it is cheaper than buying a DAP and using it as a digital transport only.



Absolutely. The S3 (I9305) has many benefits over the newer DAP's IMHO and it's 5 years old!! What does that tell you.

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9305_galaxy_s_iii-5001.php


If you pair one with a Dragonfly Red (as I intend to do) I doubt any DAP can touch it under $500. Maybe the Cayin N5 ($500) or the Onkyo DAP, which I believe is $500-600.
 
Feb 11, 2017 at 9:16 PM Post #8,732 of 9,526
If you pair one with a Dragonfly Red (as I intend to do) I doubt any DAP can touch it under $500. Maybe the Cayin N5 ($500) or the Onkyo DAP, which I believe is $500-600.


This does highlight the issue of lack of any digital transport-only devices on the market. The cheapest DAP with digital output costs twice as much as the S3 in Poland.
 
Feb 11, 2017 at 9:30 PM Post #8,734 of 9,526
Another issue is the lack of Android-based daps with access to Tidal and Spotify.


Fiio has two DAPs that run on Android but they are about 400$ each so not really an affordable piece of gear.
 
Feb 11, 2017 at 10:52 PM Post #8,735 of 9,526
I decided to dust off my 'old' Ray Samuels Predator amp with build in DAC and having hard time getting it recognized on Samsung S4 running Slim 6.0.1 Marshmallow ROM. I played with the USB options in the developer settings but no go. Plugged in the phone to my Dell XPS 15 (another cable) and it was recognized right away with no issues. Output switches to USB audio DAC and I'm immersed in the music nirvana...

Predator uses USB Mini-B connector and need standard type-A for the notebook. Any recommendation as to specific cables I can buy on ebay or Amazon or are there some other setting or issues on the phone / OS side?

Thanks for help

to add, there is no response on the phone at all, no messages/errors etc.
Seems like you need a Micro to Mini OTG Cable
 
Feb 12, 2017 at 12:54 AM Post #8,736 of 9,526
128GB? Wow, now that You mentioned it, it is cheaper than buying a DAP and using it as a digital transport only.


That is why this thread exist....
 
Feb 12, 2017 at 4:21 AM Post #8,737 of 9,526
That is why this thread exist....


No, You misunderstood me. I already am using an Android phone with a USB DAC. But as of now it is pretty inconvenient especially if one intends to use the phone while listening to music.


"portable setup" lol
 
What I meant is that it's a pretty good idea to buy a separate phone (the Galaxy S3) in order to use it as a digital transport only since it seems to be cheaper than buying a DAP with digital output.
 
Feb 12, 2017 at 5:26 AM Post #8,738 of 9,526
Ha ha ha understood you! Just affirming what you said. Happy to have this thread. Because, it is cheaper to have a smartphone+dac+apk than a DAP.
 
Feb 12, 2017 at 9:33 AM Post #8,739 of 9,526
Hmm... I have am older HTC M8 that I replaced with an HTC10. I actually like the sound of the 10 without a dac, but I'm sure the M8 with an external dac would sound better. I always found the M8 difficult to get to connect to a dac, though. Maybe rooted?
 
Feb 12, 2017 at 11:11 AM Post #8,740 of 9,526
Hmm... I have am older HTC M8 that I replaced with an HTC10. I actually like the sound of the 10 without a dac, but I'm sure the M8 with an external dac would sound better. I always found the M8 difficult to get to connect to a dac, though. Maybe rooted?


That's precisely why this thread is so helpful. I had an M8 previously. It was super flaky with DACs. There are some developer options you can tweak that will help. I don't recall what settings they are, unfortunately.
 
Feb 12, 2017 at 11:47 AM Post #8,741 of 9,526
HI, I'm quite confused about this topic, I hope any of you can help me. My only phone is an android ver 4.4.2 Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 "Inch" (stock) doesn't immediately work my Fiio Q1 using USB OTG, only with music player app like Hiby or Onkyo HF player does it work, but that's far from perfect and I can't use the external DAC for what I most do: Streaming from Spotify and Youtube. Is there a way to make it work? as the Headphone out of the Samsung is just suck.......
 
Feb 12, 2017 at 12:21 PM Post #8,742 of 9,526
Hmm... I have am older HTC M8 that I replaced with an HTC10. I actually like the sound of the 10 without a dac, but I'm sure the M8 with an external dac would sound better. I always found the M8 difficult to get to connect to a dac, though. Maybe rooted?

Doc tried it with your GO SE w/ UAPP? If yes how is it? If no, try it!
 
Feb 12, 2017 at 12:43 PM Post #8,743 of 9,526
It's a while since I tried, but you needed to use an external power supply to connect up the whole thing (have a Denon DSD-10, like it, easier to use but I don't think it connected well with the M8. Try it again, though...)
 
Feb 13, 2017 at 5:03 AM Post #8,745 of 9,526
Hi,
 
I have a HTC One M8 and I have no trouble using the Cozoy Astrapi DAC either with UAPP or with any other programme. Hope this helps.
 

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