Aeon 2 closed Impressions and Discussion

[Makiah S]

I feel like this is something important for everyone to see had to do a little bit of screenshot Magic

The biggest thing that I noticed here is a very similar frequency response for the low-end but what's drastically different is the top-end upper mids and highs especially, so humans were sensitive 2 midrange and highs so the problem is likely I'm listening at different volumes between the two,

I'm not able to level match at a show given all the noise so I imagined when I heard what I consider to be loud enough in the mids and top end now my low frequencies are quieter than what I'm used to with aeon flow closed classic

So honestly what I see is a bit of top-end emphasis with a more even mid-range all around with what is a fairly similar low frequency response, that kind of total response along with a very clean presentation is what I love about HD 800 so I still feel this is probably going to be a close back and I will enjoy I just need to get on a system that isn't built to complement the previous-generation Aeon which was a bit darker

Certianly exciting stuff!!!

 

[wirefriend]

Compared Aeon2 with my Ether C Flow 1.1 with Electrostat pads today. Aeon2 sounded more congested. Perhaps it was not fully burnt? I was told those had ~3 days of play time. The Aeon2 had too much lows for my taste. It also had narrower stage - sounded more "in the head" when compared with ECF. Sounded a bit darker.

 

[Makiah S]

Compared Aeon2 with my Ether C Flow 1.1 with Electrostat pads today. Aeon2 sounded more congested. Perhaps it was not fully burnt? I was told those had ~3 days of play time. The Aeon2 had too much lows for my taste. It also had narrower stage - sounded more "in the head" when compared with ECF. Sounded a bit darker.

What did the electrostat pads change about stock ECF 1.1?

And now I've honestly I'm thinking of full Silver cable might be what I want for this headphone...

Good news here as I think it'll make the original aeon flow closed a bit cleaner for my tastes -.-

Anyways, any one have frq measurements of ecf 1.1 with those pads? Like what brand/material an are they angled at all

 

[wirefriend]

What did the electrostat pads change about stock ECF 1.1? (...)
Anyways, any one have frq measurements of ecf 1.1 with those pads? Like what brand/material an are they angled at all

Not sure if it is the right thread to discuss ECF but since yo have asked - they add more air, separation and sound more natural / less metallic at the cost of less isolation and less lows.
They are minimally angled - less then stocks and have circular opening for the ear (as opposed to rectangular in stocks). I think they are from the same material as stocks. Sheepskin?
You can probably find more on it in the history of the ECF thread.

 

[jason.voegele]

Aeon 2C has very low sensitivity and impedance and portabe gears can't supply enough current.

Er, low impedance headphones are designed to work with portable gear, so I'm confused by your statement. It is high impedance headphones that require robust amplification.

At 13 ohms, the Aeon 2 Closed are low impedance headphones, and therefore work very well with portable gear such as the Chord Mojo, or even a Dragonfly plugged into a smart phone.

 

[PointyFox]

... or even a smartphone.

 

[518141]

Er, low impedance headphones are designed to work with portable gear, so I'm confused by your statement. It is high impedance headphones that require robust amplification.

At 13 ohms, the Aeon 2 Closed are low impedance headphones, and therefore work very well with portable gear such as the Chord Mojo, or even a Dragonfly plugged into a smart phone.

These half-truths always unsettle people.
A headphone with a low impedance requires less voltage. How loud a headphone is depends to a greater extent on the so-called sensitivity (db SPL / mw or db SPL / V). Although the Aeon2 has a low impedance of 13 ohms it is not a suitable headphone for smartphones due to its relatively low sensitivity of 92 db/mw. The Aeon2 will not be loud on a smartphone and will probably sound a bit flat.

 

[x RELIC x]

Er, low impedance headphones are designed to work with portable gear, so I'm confused by your statement. It is high impedance headphones that require robust amplification.

At 13 ohms, the Aeon 2 Closed are low impedance headphones, and therefore work very well with portable gear such as the Chord Mojo, or even a Dragonfly plugged into a smart phone.

The impedance will determine the ratio of Current:Voltage needed. The sensitivity will determine the difficulty to drive. It’s a common misconception that higher impedance transducers are more difficult to drive. From the amplifiers perspective it’s usually easier to push Voltage than supply Current. Of course, many portable amplifiers have upper limits on the Voltage they can push, but most well made DAPs can push reasonably sensitive transducers with a resistance of 300 Ohms without issue, but can struggle with supplying Current at 13 Ohms.

 

[Makiah S]

These half-truths always unsettle people.
A headphone with a low impedance requires less voltage. How loud a headphone is depends to a greater extent on the so-called sensitivity (db SPL / mv or db SPL / V). Although the Aeon2 has a low impedance of 13 ohms it is not a suitable headphone for smartphones due to its relatively low sensitivity of 92 db/mv. The Aeon2 will not be loud on a smartphone and will probably sound a bit flat.

The impedance will determine the ratio of Current:Voltage needed. The sensitivity will determine the difficulty to drive. It’s a common misconception that higher impedance transducers are more difficult to drive. From the amplifiers perspective it’s usually easier to push Voltage than supply Current. Of course, many portable amplifiers have upper limits on the Voltage they can push, but most well made DAPs can push reasonably sensitive transducers with a resistance of 300 Ohms without issue, but can struggle with supplying Current at 13 Ohms.

Yup yup yup, high impedance headphones often need a lot of voltage which isn't really that difficult of a load/demand

My LG V20 on it's "High" output will even drive my AKG K240M to more than loud levels. Again not something I would go out of my way to do but as both of these guys have mentioned Aeon 2 and OG Aeon's low sensitivity and low impedance create a load that is more difficult because of the current supply needed

I think it's discontinued or at least not in stock, but the Campfire Cascade with Velour Pads and the stock white "filter" removed is a nice spacious listen from a cell phone, I use mine just like that from time to time. I keep my OG Aeon reserved for use with my little portable stack most of the time as it does sound very flat dynamically when it's sourced/plugged into an amp that isn't able to supply the current needed

 

[518141]

Yup yup yup, high impedance headphones often need a lot of voltage which isn't really that difficult of a load/demand

I think it's discontinued or at least not in stock, but the Campfire Cascade with Velour Pads and the stock white "filter" removed is a nice spacious listen from a cell phone, I use mine just like that from time to time. I keep my OG Aeon reserved for use with my little portable stack most of the time as it does sound very flat dynamically when it's sourced/plugged into an amp that isn't able to supply the current needed

I own the Cascades (38 ohms / 100 db/mw). It is quite clear that they are easier to drive than the Aeon2. But that does not say much about the sound quality. The Aeon2 just need more juice to get on tour.

 

[Makiah S]

I own the Cascades (38 ohms / 100 db/mv). It is quite clear that they are easier to drive than the Aeon2. But that does not say much about the sound quality. The Aeon2 just need more juice to get on tour.

Sound wise they are more different than OG Aeon than better imo, I use a solid silver cable velour pads and I gutted the white stock filter. Those three things seemed to help tone down all the bass and help more of the resolve the driver can deliver come thru

My point is something like Cascade will do better on your cell phone than OGAeon or Aeon 2, in fact I do feel just from my Cell Cascade is the better listen. With a proper set up for OGAeon I don't think cascade is as good for my tastes, detail wise the two are close but I still prefer OG Aeon for it's more linear tonal presentation.

So without sufficient "juice" I don't find Aeon to be competitive compared to other headphones, I will say my little Geek Out v2+ is enough [balanced out] to bring OG Aeon above cascade in terms of performance for my tastes. Tho I still lug around my HM901 & iBassoPB2 stack for og Aeon lol

Thankfully were seeing a real surge of smaller high output portable products these days!

 

[PointyFox]

Any comparisons, like Aeon 2 vs Mobius?

 

[erpguru]

Has anyone received a Aeon 2 or even gotten a shipping confirmation? I ordered a week ago and never got shipping info, wrote them and got a 'thanks for being patient'. I thought they were shipping, no?

 

[PointyFox]

Has anyone received a Aeon 2 or even gotten a shipping confirmation? I ordered a week ago and never got shipping info, wrote them and got a 'thanks for being patient'. I thought they were shipping, no?

Who'd you order from?

 

[erpguru]

Directly from Mr.Speakers/Dan Clark audio..

So they were delivered today, guess the tracking number never got sent, but regardless they are here! I have not had much time with them, but initial impression is that that the Hiby R5 is not powerful enough to drive them, at least in SE mode, tried hi gain and not enough oomph. I am not bothering with balanced with the R5, going to return it and get the R6 and will try balanced cable with that (was my initial plan to begin with, but was trying to save a few dollars)