[attmci]

They are gorgeous!

You sure? That guy is the Italian Bangbang.

 

[Monsterzero]

Looks great D, glad it worked out, those Ken-Rads have been on my wish list, there are others available for sane prices, I might grab some but I already have a lot of 6J5s...

As I've said before, the same pattern holds (for me and my ears) with every 6SN7 to 6J5 apples-to-apples comparison I've done. The 6J5 wins every time with better air, separation, staging. Other tonal differences depend on the tubes in question.

Thanks !
Dumb question is there a 6/12j5 equivalent to the TS BGRP,or the metal base Sylvania that UT raves about?

Looks great MZ...which phones? The beautiful Tung-Sol 12J5's I bought are quite incredible with the right 'phones, too! As are the NU 12J5's.

I definitely dig the xJ5's as well.

For the last six-seven weeks I have only listened to the VC. Every other headphone is collecting cob webs.

 

[JazzVinyl]

Is has nothing to do with brands.

Really? So it is just "closed" or "open" and the impedance? So two different brands of the same style and impedance will sound the exactly the same in Glenn's OTL?

 

[L0rdGwyn]

Thanks !
Dumb question is there a 6/12j5 equivalent to the TS BGRP,or the metal base Sylvania that UT raves about?

Oh there are, I'm glad you asked

See these posts where I compare them to their 6SN7 cousins:

Sylvania: https://www.head-fi.org/threads/2359glenn-studio.600110/page-1921#post-15134147
Tung-Sol: https://www.head-fi.org/threads/2359glenn-studio.600110/page-1958#post-15152863

Other round plate, metal base Sylvania 6J5GT likely sound the same as the pairs I have.

The ST-shaped Tung-Sol 6J5G I have come up sometimes but are overall pretty uncommon. The Tung-Sol 12J5 @JazzVinyl has have the same internal construction (except for a missing heat fin on top) and probably sound the same. And they are dirt cheap:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Tung-Sol-J...123600?hash=item51e5e1ae10:g:hfgAAOxyTyBSXaSh

Just use that same adapter and the 12V setting on the GOTL.

I have been trying to get this 6J5 hype train rolling for a while, I'm so glad people like them

 

[JazzVinyl]

Thanks !
Dumb question is there a 6/12j5 equivalent to the TS BGRP,or the metal base Sylvania that UT raves about?

There appears to be a 6J5 equiv of the 6SN7W metal base,

For the last six-seven weeks I have only listened to the VC. Every other headphone is collecting cob webs.

But everyone knows..."Open is better"

.

 

[attmci]

Oh there are, I'm glad you asked

See these posts where I compare them to their 6SN7 cousins:

Sylvania: https://www.head-fi.org/threads/2359glenn-studio.600110/page-1921#post-15134147
Tung-Sol: https://www.head-fi.org/threads/2359glenn-studio.600110/page-1958#post-15152863

Other round plate, metal base Sylvania 6J5GT likely sound the same as the pairs I have.

The ST-shaped Tung-Sol 6J5G I have come up sometimes but are overall pretty uncommon. The Tung-Sol 12J5 @JazzVinyl has have the same internal construction (except for a missing heat fin on top) and probably sound the same. And they are dirt cheap:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Tung-Sol-J...123600?hash=item51e5e1ae10:g:hfgAAOxyTyBSXaSh

Just use that same adapter and the 12V setting on the GOTL.

I have been trying to get this 6J5 hype train rolling for a while, I'm so glad people like them

Is there a 6J5 sounds like a GE 6SN7GT?

 

[L0rdGwyn]

Is there a 6J5 sounds like a GE 6SN7GT?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/GE-6J5-Tube-2800/254332622506?hash=item3b3767d6aa:g:YioAAOSwsB5dVzIg
https://www.ebay.com/itm/General-El...915819?hash=item5d92af3a6b:g:MbAAAOSwTfNcx38l

 

[UntilThen]

Thanks !
Dumb question is there a 6/12j5 equivalent to the TS BGRP,or the metal base Sylvania that UT raves about?



For the last six-seven weeks I have only listened to the VC. Every other headphone is collecting cob webs.

Though I like the Tung Sol 6F8G bgrp in WA22, the Tung Sol 12SL7GT bgrp in GOTL is not my top fav because it’s not as transparent as the Sylvania 6sn7w metal base.

Glenn is correct in saying that tubes in a transformer coupled amp sounds better than in an OTL amp because it’s more vivid and clear.

In the GOTL, my top 4 drivers are:-
Mullard ECC35
Ecc33
GEC b36
Sylvania 6sn7w metal base

These are the drivers I rave about in GOTL.

In Studio Six and WA22, I’m still discovering what I like.

 

[attmci]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/GE-6J5-Tube-2800/254332622506?hash=item3b3767d6aa:g:YioAAOSwsB5dVzIg
https://www.ebay.com/itm/General-El...915819?hash=item5d92af3a6b:g:MbAAAOSwTfNcx38l

Thanks for the info.

I passed it to


bcowen

 

[L0rdGwyn]

From LordGwyn's quote above - I just checked and there are some very beautiful looking and cheap 6C5's like this RCA Victor 6C5. It has a similar silver ridged cathode or whatever it's called looking similar to another miniature tube UT recommended a few years back, which I however didn't happen to like. Although these look beautiful, I would probably however prefer to hear a little feedback on these before taking the leap. Assuming they are interchangeable for 6J5's

Hey DL - they are similar enough in specification that they can be used interchangeably with 6J5s. The grid-like thing inside is internal shielding to keep out interference, intended to be grounded via pin 1. The RCAs likely sound similar in tone to a RCA 6SN7GT/VT-231, but with improved staging and separation, just an educated guess.

 

[UntilThen]

The point I’m trying to make is the same Tung Sol 6F8G bgrp (which is equivalent to TS BGRP) sounds much clearer and vivid in Studio Six and WA22 than in GOTL - of course some parameters are different such as the 2 transformer coupled amps uses tube rectifiers) but ultimately I believe the clearer and more vivid is due to the fact the other 2 amps are transformer coupled.

 

[JazzVinyl]

Glenn is correct in saying that tubes in a transformer coupled amp sounds better than in an OTL amp because it’s more vivid and clear.

Can you link to where he said that, please?

 

[UsoppNoKami]

So that's where you've been. Cleaning pins and tube rolling ! Wabbit

As usual, outstanding picture and wonderful tubes. You've got class there mate with those tubes and headphones..... and where's that picture of the priceless, vintage Sansui AU-7700 that I sold you?

it's in the background of the shot with the NU 6SN7 tube

 

[DecentLevi]

Really? So it is just "closed" or "open" and the impedance? So two different brands of the same style and impedance will sound the exactly the same in Glenn's OTL?

That's a bit over-generalizing. What I was saying generally was that specs / materials of the equipment is what makes synergy happen rather than brands of the equipment. Specifically what I was saying on the better part of my post you omitted was that I hold to the opinion that a headphone's synergy with tubes of an OTL tube amp has more to do with the headphone impedance in relation to the specifications (and class) of the used, and results can vary depending on if it's open or closed, rather than the brand of the headphone or other gear. We do all agree that tubes affect headphone pairings with OTL amps, and one user said it can even vary within the same brand.

 

[UsoppNoKami]

Decided to try a triple driver set up for fun. Have read that the C3g is very transparent.. I have a pair of Siemens and Telefunken/Siemens, as well as a pair of the Lorenz C3g. Picked the Lorenz set to pair with a Melz 5 hole metal base 6sn7.

HD6xx isn't one of my fav headphones, but it actually sounds good now...