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Nov 26, 2018 at 12:24 AM Post #23,628 of 39,983
Just a note for 300B amp owners. I spoke to Glenn, and the Exx to C3g adapters and tubes cannot be used in the C3g sockets. Just the OTL.
 
Nov 26, 2018 at 4:35 AM Post #23,630 of 39,983
Looking forward to your impressions. What EL tubes do you have?

None yet. just ordered a pair of EL8 from ebay. I am hunting for cheap EL11's and/or EL13's.
 
Nov 26, 2018 at 5:00 AM Post #23,631 of 39,983
Just a note for 300B amp owners. I spoke to Glenn, and the Exx to C3g adapters and tubes cannot be used in the C3g sockets. Just the OTL.

Except for some of the older ones those I took 6.3 volts off the center tap in the transformer. Then I changed it to make it quieter
And run them on DC to keep any 50Hz or 60Hz away from the C3g.
 
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Nov 26, 2018 at 9:01 AM Post #23,633 of 39,983
Nov 26, 2018 at 3:39 PM Post #23,637 of 39,983
A few minutes of listening to music before work. EL13 sound simply magical with it's ability to separate instruments giving the song a 3 dimensionality I've not heard before in other drivers. EL11 sounds the same. The 2 are very similar tonally.
 
Nov 26, 2018 at 5:04 PM Post #23,638 of 39,983
A few minutes of listening to music before work. EL13 sound simply magical with it's ability to separate instruments giving the song a 3 dimensionality I've not heard before in other drivers. EL11 sounds the same. The 2 are very similar tonally.
So EL3N is a bit darker than EL11. EL11 is similar to EL13. That leaves EL8 sounding similar to the EL3N.
EL8 ~ EL3N and EL11 ~ EL13 correct me if I'm wrong. I think I'll restric myself to only the EL3N & EL11 then since they seem to be easier to source :)
 
Nov 26, 2018 at 6:10 PM Post #23,639 of 39,983
So EL3N is a bit darker than EL11. EL11 is similar to EL13. That leaves EL8 sounding similar to the EL3N.
EL8 ~ EL3N and EL11 ~ EL13 correct me if I'm wrong. I think I'll restric myself to only the EL3N & EL11 then since they seem to be easier to source :)

In my experience, it is not this simple. Tubes manufactured in different factories by different companies sound different. So for example, EL11 manufactured by Valvo, Telefunken, Tesla, RFT, Tungsram will likely all sound different.

And therefore, when making comparisons such as these, it is necessary to know the factory. Most, if not all Philips EL3N were manufactured in a factory located in Vienna, Austria (WIRAG). In my experience, WIRAG tubes are in fact warmer and darker than tubes manufactured by Telefunken. But that does not mean that all EL3N are darker than EL11. In each case, it depends on the factory.

If EL11 and EL13 were manufactured in the same factory, for example, Telefunken, it is very likely than will sound very similar. If EL3N and EL8 were manufactured in different factories, they will likely sound different.

Therefore, in each case, I urge those of you posting your impressions to identify the factory. And it is important to understand that in many cases, the brand does not accurately indicate the factory. So it will often be necessary to do a little research. But you are not alone. Many here can help you.

Cheers
 
Nov 26, 2018 at 9:29 PM Post #23,640 of 39,983
Therefore, in each case, I urge those of you posting your impressions to identify the factory. And it is important to understand that in many cases, the brand does not accurately indicate the factory. So it will often be necessary to do a little research. But you are not alone. Many here can help you.

Cheers
Said something similar on the previous page. Year of manufacture is also important, as the factory could change materials/construction from one year to another. For example the GZ34 metal base:

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