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Dec 15, 2017 at 1:17 PM Post #17,221 of 39,986
I think all the flat-black embossed cans are extinct now. So like any beer can collector, I'll be content with black shiny ones. Different colour boxes makes them interesting !

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Dec 15, 2017 at 1:25 PM Post #17,222 of 39,986
This test is to determine if I can detect any differences between 4 x 6BX7 and 6 x 6BX7. When I swap to 4 x 6BX7, I thought it sounded very similar but I was also aware that the band became more focused and closer together. To confirm that, I put back 6 x 6BX7 again and I could detect the differences indeed. With six, the composition is more spread out and instruments separation are more clearly discernible. Notes are also more weighty and have impact. Subtle? Yes but it's the subtlety that makes the six special. If I didn't hear the six, I would have been happy with quad 6BX7 in this setup.

It's really Glenn's tuning of this amp with these tubes. There's a 'rightness' to it.

A pic of GOTL with 4 x Los Gatos 6BX7gt.

Re C3g,

The Siemens and Telefunken should sound the same since I am under the impression that they were both made by Siemens. Could be that the Lorenz version is different.
I think all the flat-black embossed cans are extinct now. So like any beer can collector, I'll be content with black shiny ones. Different colour boxes makes them interesting !
Well, if you can't find C3g tubes any more at reasonable prices, you can always get the 20V version - the C3m. Just ask Glenn for another switch....
And with the C3m you could get a Philips version - the indomitable TS49 that I just discovered!
 
Dec 15, 2017 at 1:26 PM Post #17,223 of 39,986
It is really hard to know how much of the differences you hear are due to 4 versus 6 tubes and how much is due to mixing 4 of one make and 2 of another. When you have 6 that are all the same, then a comparison of 4 versus 6 will be more definitive.

The mixture of tubes in this amp is very interesting. It could be that I've stumbled on a nice combination of Fivre and Los Gatos 6BX7 by chance. Similarly when I combine Mullard and Bendix 6080, I'm getting a different brew. Next I'll be trying 2 x 5998 and 2 x 7236 together. Now what will that produce. :dt880smile:

Ah I have 6 x GE 6BX7gt. That will another's day rolling. The sun will be up soon and this owl needs to sleep.
 
Dec 15, 2017 at 2:02 PM Post #17,224 of 39,986
After a couple of beers I might be able to tell you if they are any different. :)

Alright in the next hour or so I'll test it with my now sober head. At 3am in the morning where there is not a single soul awake. Even the birds are sleeping. So in the still of the night I shall listen to the sound of silence.

I hope you roll the tubes and not the beer bottles. :o2smile:
 
Dec 15, 2017 at 5:14 PM Post #17,225 of 39,986
It's the multi conglomerate General Electric's turn now to show what it can do. Can't let the La Gatos and Fivre steal the show. These GE 6BX7gt sure light up brightly. That is the first noticeable difference. Secondly I thought it sounded more vibrant but I can't really be sure because both set of tubes can tango and salsa. :gs1000smile:

I am convinced now that if you have C3Gs and 6BX7s in this amp, you have ascended to cloud 9. Now to find out where attmci lives so I can raid his chest of 6BX7s.

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Dec 15, 2017 at 5:33 PM Post #17,226 of 39,986
These are the boxes for the GE tubes. On it are the words 'Progress is our most important product'. On the La Gatos box, it says 'Precision engineered' and on the Fivre boxes it reads 'Guaranted against electrical and mechanical defects'. They have some fine script writers in those days.

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Dec 15, 2017 at 5:59 PM Post #17,228 of 39,986
These are the boxes for the GE tubes. On it are the words 'Progress is our most important product'. On the La Gatos box, it says 'Precision engineered' and on the Fivre boxes it reads 'Guaranted against electrical and mechanical defects'. They have some fine script writers in those days.


My gosh UT, don't you ever sleep? I think it's time for that wife of yours to put that heavy duty cast iron frying pan to use with total impunity (KONK!) :)
 
Dec 15, 2017 at 6:03 PM Post #17,229 of 39,986
You won't hear from ww for a few days. He's admiring his cocobolo Atticus now. It is savagely beautiful.


Yes, I'm very interested in his review of the Atticus and GEL3N... About two hours into my warmup of Scarlett for my listening tonight.
 
Dec 15, 2017 at 6:10 PM Post #17,230 of 39,986
My gosh UT, don't you ever sleep? I think it's time for that wife of yours to put that heavy duty cast iron frying pan to use with total impunity (KONK!) :)

That reminds me I have to make sure that the gas bottle is replenished for next week's bbq for all our close friends. Forget that and my wife will surely be not pleased but otherwise she is very loving and just let me enjoy my music.

It's hard to sleep when the music's this good. This OTL amp is sounding real good. It's audio nirvana now no doubt about it. How's Scarlett going? :wink:
 
Dec 15, 2017 at 6:24 PM Post #17,231 of 39,986
It's the multi conglomerate General Electric's turn now to show what it can do. Can't let the La Gatos and Fivre steal the show. These GE 6BX7gt sure light up brightly. That is the first noticeable difference. Secondly I thought it sounded more vibrant but I can't really be sure because both set of tubes can tango and salsa. :gs1000smile:

I am convinced now that if you have C3Gs and 6BX7s in this amp, you have ascended to cloud 9. Now to find out where attmci lives so I can raid his chest of 6BX7s.


Hay Matt
Here are some Los Gatos 6BX7 so you can get a matched sextet .
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1x-6BX7GT-...390115?hash=item5d741372a3:g:u7YAAOSwuMZZFzPW
 
Dec 15, 2017 at 6:27 PM Post #17,232 of 39,986
That reminds me I have to make sure that the gas bottle is replenished for next week's bbq for all our close friends. Forget that and my wife will surely be not pleased but otherwise she is very loving and just let me enjoy my music.

It's hard to sleep when the music's this good. This OTL amp is sounding real good. It's audio nirvana now no doubt about it. How's Scarlett going? :wink:

She's doing well thank you! She loves to be warmed up and turned on for a while then she calms down with the thermal noise and really starts to sing.
 
Dec 15, 2017 at 6:38 PM Post #17,233 of 39,986
Hay Matt
Here are some Los Gatos 6BX7 so you can get a matched sextet .
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1x-6BX7GT-...390115?hash=item5d741372a3:g:u7YAAOSwuMZZFzPW

Tempting but I don't think matching same brand is necessary. The amp is singing regardless with any brand thrown in. The 1954 pair is tempting too.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Matched...d=401379390115&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851

Next I want to test out the 6BL7s. My ears shall be the judge. I shall not be prejudiced. :)
 
Dec 15, 2017 at 7:11 PM Post #17,234 of 39,986
Hay Matt
Here are some Los Gatos 6BX7 so you can get a matched sextet .
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1x-6BX7GT-...390115?hash=item5d741372a3:g:u7YAAOSwuMZZFzPW

These are re-badged Sylvania. His are re-badged Tung-Sol.

Tempting but I don't think matching same brand is necessary. The amp is singing regardless with any brand thrown in. The 1954 pair is tempting too.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Matched-PAIR-CBS-6BX7GT-Tubes-GE-USA-NOS-NIB-Black-Plates-Dual-Triode-D-Getter/202137075298?_trkparms=aid=222007&algo=SIM.MBE&ao=2&asc=49574&meid=9bd1d8de13bd4df2ba684d285bb46741&pid=100005&rk=5&rkt=6&sd=401379390115&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851

Next I want to test out the 6BL7s. My ears shall be the judge. I shall not be prejudiced. :)

And these are GE.
 

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