[QBoQBo]

I will be using the position 1 mostly 

 I cannot see how a port can benefit in terms of sounds and isolation for BA drivers. There is no point of having ADEL unless everyone persists forever. In the end, all our systems deteriorate with aging. Good marketing strategy to jack up the price. I guess the main objectives of 1964 have changed in order to survive in this competitive and cruel society. I am glad that I have obtained the V6 at its golden times when the main focus was AFFORDABLE, attention to details, and good customer service.

 

[Levanter]

  Impossible since you can't change a tier once someone has pledged for it.

 
Nope, but they could always offer a refund on the balance
But it's just a wishful thinking..

 

[Dinerenblanc]

   
Nope, but they could always offer a refund on the balance
But it's just a wishful thinking..

They actually cannot manage the pledges. Every last person who pledged would have to manually change it themselves. 

 

[xedjflowx]

  I will be using the position 1 mostly 

 I cannot see how a port can benefit in terms of sounds and isolation for BA drivers. There is no point of having ADEL unless everyone persists forever. In the end, all our systems deteriorate with aging. Good marketing strategy to jack up the price. I guess the main objectives of 1964 have changed in order to survive in this competitive and cruel society. I am glad that I have obtained the V6 at its golden times when the main focus was AFFORDABLE, attention to details, and good customer service.

$540 for a V8 seems pretty affordable to me. Heck, a brand new 4 armature costs that much. Bigger is not always better but V8 is the exact sound sig I'm looking for. Seems like a deal.

 

[vitaliy belo]

How did they fully disable the membrane and allow to work as conventional IEMs without damaging the membrane with the knob turned further?
Hmm yes very interested to hear their replies.

There is a "membrane tensioner" ring, just like a hoop on a drum, that tentions the membrane which controls bass responce. ADEL system is disabled by fully sealing off the membranes from "outside air"

 

[vitaliy belo]

Vitality,

Thanks for posting!

Wanting to back either the A10 or A12.

Love my V6-Stage, but didn't care for the (over)emphasized bass of the V8. On the other hand I wouldn't want less bass than the V6-Stage.

How does the bass compare between the these two V-line IEMs and the A10 and A12?

Also, I had my V6-Stage made as a Universal. Will that also be an option with the A10 & A12?

-Eric

Eric, A10's bass is closer to neutral, while A12's have a nice punch and thickness

 

[Levanter]

Vitaliy, if the A12 signature resembles V8, could you expand further on what are the differences btw both? E.g. is the soundstage and imaging much better on the A12 compared to the V8, or if the bass and treble extends further, or better micro details retrieval, etc?

 

[Malevolent]

Vitaliy, if the A12 signature resembles V8, could you expand further on what are the differences btw both? E.g. is the soundstage and imaging much better on the A12 compared to the V8, or if the bass and treble extends further, or better micro details retrieval, etc?

+1 This is something I am very interested to know. The V8 is on my list of IEMs that I am considering right now. I don't think I'm going to be able to audition the A10/12 any time soon, so some more in-depth information would great help.

 

[julzd]

Does anyone know how the new u-series will compare to existing 1964 customs in sound quality? For example will u8 be technically better/worse/equal to the current v8? And will the u6 beat the v6s or would the v6s still be the way to go? Probably no one has definitive answers but I was thinking, if the u8 has enhanced bass, does that mean that with the adel tech turned on and the port slightly opened it will reduce to neutral bass? As far as I'm concerned this would probably be ideal as you would get the protection from adel whilst retaining a neutral bass signature...

 

[acain]

I agree with everything you pointed out companys have to come up with new marketing to stay on top. If the prices of ciems came down you would think they would profit more from selling a larger quantity. But I guess there happy with there profit with the current price.

 

[vitaliy belo]

Since some people might not be aware of another 1964 thread that's specifically for ADEL-related stuff, 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/739712/1964-ears-adel-iems
I'll post my questions here:

Looking at the MSRP pricing of the U-series with the addition of ADEL is quite close to the current pricing of V-series in universal form.

But the custom A-series, on the other hand, jump way above in MSRP pricing in regards to V8 with:
- the same ADEL as the U series
- addition of 2 or 4 more drivers

Almost seems that Kickstarter prices for the customs should have been the MSRP pricing or just slightly more.

Hope to see some transparency and reasoning in regards to the big jump in MSRP pricing for the custom A-series

The A-Series which feature the revolutionary ADEL tech, are sonically far superior to what is currently available on the market today. No other IEM tech (or audio tech) has the backing of the National Science Foundation AND the National Institute of Health. Millions of dollars went into reseach and study of the human ear by Stephen D. Ambrose and Ph.D's at Vanderbuilt University (Nashville). This technology is expensive right now because of the high-precission manufacturing requirements. They payoff is so good, and we are convinced that once you hear this new dimension of sound you will understand why we value it the way we do.

 

[Levanter]

The A-Series which feature the revolutionary ADEL tech, are sonically far superior to what is currently available on the market today. No other IEM tech (or audio tech) has the backing of the National Science Foundation AND the National Institute of Health. Millions of dollars went into reseach and study of the human ear by Stephen D. Ambrose and Ph.D's at Vanderbuilt University (Nashville). This technology is expensive right now because of the high-precission manufacturing requirements. They payoff is so good, and we are convinced that once you hear this new dimension of sound you will understand why we value it the way we do.

Vitaliy, as the U series e.g. U8 also has the Adel tech and will be retailing below $1000, is there any other differences besides being custom and the additional 2-4 drivers that increase the A series price from $1000 up to $1700-1999?
Are the wiring, tech and implementation different from the A and U series?

 

[vitaliy belo]

Vitaliy, if the A12 signature resembles V8, could you expand further on what are the differences btw both? E.g. is the soundstage and imaging much better on the A12 compared to the V8, or if the bass and treble extends further, or better micro details retrieval, etc?

A12's have better transient responce (eardrum no longer held still by trapped air in canal) wider soundstage and more articulated bass (pneumatic bass smears harmonics).... The A12 is simply stunning...

 

[vitaliy belo]

Vitaliy, as the U series e.g. U8 also has the Adel tech and will be retailing below $1000, is there any other differences besides being custom and the additional 2-4 drivers that increase the A series price from $1000 up to $1700-1999?
Are the wiring, tech and implementation different from the A and U series?

Cost of drivers, R&D, shell printing and meticulous labor are the main differences.

 

[QBoQBo]

The A-Series which feature the revolutionary ADEL tech, are sonically far superior to what is currently available on the market today. No other IEM tech (or audio tech) has the backing of the National Science Foundation AND the National Institute of Health. Millions of dollars went into reseach and study of the human ear by Stephen D. Ambrose and Ph.D's at Vanderbuilt University (Nashville). This technology is expensive right now because of the high-precission manufacturing requirements. They payoff is so good, and we are convinced that once you hear this new dimension of sound you will understand why we value it the way we do.

That's understandable when you have to purchase a patent technology that is national recognized. However, customer should have an option to choose the non ADEL version of the A10 or A12 CIEM so that we have an affordable upgrade without having to pay for the 3rd-party research.

I know it is time for you guys to take down the big brothers (cough cough JH), but that's not why I chose 1964.

It was the level of customization, the less than 12 hours reply with my e-mail, and how everything is so client focus instead of marketing focus.