The Symphones V8 drivers are a replacment driver for Grado headphones. Now why would someone purchase a pair of Grados, only to perform a modification as dramatic as replacing the driver? I wondered this myself. I purchased my pair of Grado SR125i's a number of years ago, and enjoyed listening sessions on them for some time. Eventually I mellowed them out with a tube amp. Then mellowed them further with rosewood cups. I guess the simple fact of the matter is that the original Grado drivers don't have the sophisticated sound of other headphones, either in detail or balance. So, when the V8 went on sale, I took the bait!
The V8 drivers look very similar to the original Grado drivers. They come in well-designed bio-degradable packaging. In order to use them, you will need to solder your cable ends to the driver terminals -- quickly and easily done if you have a soldering iron. I ordered a Venus Audio Grado replacement cable so that I wouldn't have to detach my original cable from the original drivers. All of my listening was done with rosewood cups, Grado L-Pads, the Mogami cable from Venus Audio, and a portable Topping NX4DSD DAC/AMP.
Initial impressions - wow what an upgrade from the Grado sound! It's missing the "Grado bite" - an artifact of high end peak in the Grado drivers - but the fun isn't missing. 70's Rock sounds alive, guitars have plenty of detail. Vocals are forward and smooth. Bass is improved although not as deep as many other headphones these days. Bass resolution is quite definitely improved over original Grado drivers.
I put a favorite jazz piece on: "The Bridge" by Sonny Rollins. Drumset was amazing! Remarkable tone from the cymbals, visceral crack from the snare, the toms were very realistic. Speaks to the quality high frequencies that are put out by these drivers. String bass had some trouble getting noticed, but was well defined. Sax and guitar were forward, detailed, and sweet sounding. I compared the sound to Beyer DT880 Pro, my go to jazz headphones, and the DT880's were outclassed, especially for the texture of the cymbals.
Now I always enjoyed the Grado SR125i's with classical chamber music and vocal music. As long as the venue was small and intimate, they provided detail and gave an impression of being "in the room", or even "on stage" with the performers. Large venue classical, however, was unlistenable. The Grado's have no decent soundstage, and the effect turned a symphony into a tin can performance.
What about the V8's? I queued up Alisa Weilerstein's Shostokovich Cello Concertos. This a fantastic recording and the Symphones project all of the detail and energy of the performance. I'd say there is something of a bass hump that seems a little overweight for classical music. But the control and the tonality heard in the jazz pieces show up in the cello's grain and the reverberation of the tympany.
I put on a favorite symphonic piece: "West Side Story - Mambo" with Simon Bolivar Youth Symphony, Gustavo Dudamel conducting. This is dynamics and energy at its best. I compared Senn HD650 to the Symphones V8. This is where the limitations of V8 started showing up. Once again, percussion was facinating, detailed, and fun. The bells had great texture on the V8's. However the limits of the V8 soundstage made the piece feel flat. The sound of the room was largely missing. With the HD650's you can get plenty of spacial clues so that when the orchestra shouts "Mambo!" it hits you from all around, and when a lone voice repeats it a few seconds later, you can visualize it in the hall. That's just not there with the V8's.
So to sum up, the V8's are a step up from the original Grado drivers (at least SR125). They don't do much more for soundstage, but the dynamics, detail, and texture of the sound is a very nice add. I have a new goto set of cans for jazz. The V8's are comparable and better in many ways to the DT880's for jazz -- and rock music as well. For classical, although the V8's compare favorably to the original Grado's, I will stick with my current favorite, the Sennheiser HD650's.
The V8 drivers look very similar to the original Grado drivers. They come in well-designed bio-degradable packaging. In order to use them, you will need to solder your cable ends to the driver terminals -- quickly and easily done if you have a soldering iron. I ordered a Venus Audio Grado replacement cable so that I wouldn't have to detach my original cable from the original drivers. All of my listening was done with rosewood cups, Grado L-Pads, the Mogami cable from Venus Audio, and a portable Topping NX4DSD DAC/AMP.
Initial impressions - wow what an upgrade from the Grado sound! It's missing the "Grado bite" - an artifact of high end peak in the Grado drivers - but the fun isn't missing. 70's Rock sounds alive, guitars have plenty of detail. Vocals are forward and smooth. Bass is improved although not as deep as many other headphones these days. Bass resolution is quite definitely improved over original Grado drivers.
I put a favorite jazz piece on: "The Bridge" by Sonny Rollins. Drumset was amazing! Remarkable tone from the cymbals, visceral crack from the snare, the toms were very realistic. Speaks to the quality high frequencies that are put out by these drivers. String bass had some trouble getting noticed, but was well defined. Sax and guitar were forward, detailed, and sweet sounding. I compared the sound to Beyer DT880 Pro, my go to jazz headphones, and the DT880's were outclassed, especially for the texture of the cymbals.
Now I always enjoyed the Grado SR125i's with classical chamber music and vocal music. As long as the venue was small and intimate, they provided detail and gave an impression of being "in the room", or even "on stage" with the performers. Large venue classical, however, was unlistenable. The Grado's have no decent soundstage, and the effect turned a symphony into a tin can performance.
What about the V8's? I queued up Alisa Weilerstein's Shostokovich Cello Concertos. This a fantastic recording and the Symphones project all of the detail and energy of the performance. I'd say there is something of a bass hump that seems a little overweight for classical music. But the control and the tonality heard in the jazz pieces show up in the cello's grain and the reverberation of the tympany.
I put on a favorite symphonic piece: "West Side Story - Mambo" with Simon Bolivar Youth Symphony, Gustavo Dudamel conducting. This is dynamics and energy at its best. I compared Senn HD650 to the Symphones V8. This is where the limitations of V8 started showing up. Once again, percussion was facinating, detailed, and fun. The bells had great texture on the V8's. However the limits of the V8 soundstage made the piece feel flat. The sound of the room was largely missing. With the HD650's you can get plenty of spacial clues so that when the orchestra shouts "Mambo!" it hits you from all around, and when a lone voice repeats it a few seconds later, you can visualize it in the hall. That's just not there with the V8's.
So to sum up, the V8's are a step up from the original Grado drivers (at least SR125). They don't do much more for soundstage, but the dynamics, detail, and texture of the sound is a very nice add. I have a new goto set of cans for jazz. The V8's are comparable and better in many ways to the DT880's for jazz -- and rock music as well. For classical, although the V8's compare favorably to the original Grado's, I will stick with my current favorite, the Sennheiser HD650's.