Audio-Technica ATH-M50S

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New Head-Fier
Pros: sound quality, build quality, good amount of bass
Cons: treble that is to harsh
 
 
I am new to Head-Fi and digital audio generally, so I can't compare the M50 to any other headphones, but based on my long-ago experience selling really high-end audio, they are like experiencing the sound of an excellent pair of full-range, expensive loudspeakers, except they take up a lot less space, are more portable, cost much less for a comparable degree of sound quality, and allow private listening.  I really needed a closed-back headphone because I listen in a lot of circumstances where I can't disturb those around me, and the ATH-M50S are excellent at containing sound "leakage" while not being as insulating from allowing you to hear outside sounds (like fire alarms, doorbells, etc.) as an IEM would be.  I listen to the the M50s in the public library at what seems like a really robust volume to me, and people sitting just a few feet away from me never glare or look askance at me.  They are easy to drive (I can actually play them quite acceptably from my tiny Rockboxed Sansa Clip+, and the disparity of size between the source and the cans and sound eminating from them is kind of amusing.  With the Nuforce uDAC-2 HP serving as a replacement for the internal sound card in three different notebook computers (a Sony i7 running Windows 7, an old HP dual-core and an Asus Atom netbook - both running Ubuntu Linux), they can be driven to deafening levels without a hint of distortion at any frequency, even what we used to call "bass doubling" coming from speaker woofer cones breaking up from the cones not moving linearly trying to push large volumes of air quickly.  Another advantage of headphones with a small enclosed acoustic cavity over trying to fill a room with high-quality sound.
 
The closed-back design does lead to a smaller soundstage, which is why I have the Sennheiser 650s coming, which I will use only at home where I can afford to "bleed" some sound to the area around me.  The only real complaint I can make about the M50s is comfort.  The build quality is excellent, and even though high quality plastic is used to keep them relatively lightweight, they are still a tad heavy, and the clamping force is strong, but tolerable.  Helps for a good acoustic seal, so I would be wary of trying to stretch out the headband too much.
 
Supply and demand tells you a lot about the quality of any product.  When I got my pair for $110 new on eBay, the Amazon price was about $129.  Now, they are going for almost the full retail of $199 on Amazon, and the number of five-star reviews of them grows daily as people take delivery.
 
Definitely a keeper.


 

Madhawanm

New Head-Fier
Pros: + Good Clean Audio Quality + Good Bass response , +Good Highs and Mids for the price, + Good isolation, + great with Fiio E6, +Durable +Good Looks
Cons: -Comfort, - A bit too bright, -Bass muffled without use of Amp,
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When I heard them first, I was dejected and fuming at my decision, Now, After apprx. 50 Hours of burn in , I thank my self that i didn't return them back.
 
Let's start with the outside first-
 
Looks- Now, I don't know why some people describe them as plain-jane looking or being too introvert/somber . I got my hands on the Limited edition and let me tell you, They are as outwards as any others, having said that, They still maintain a non flashy demeanor (Unlike Beats). The limited edition beautifly franksteins an unique combination of Silvery white with a hint of  blue tint making them attractive and fresh.
 
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For a serious music lover, They should match his choice. Unless you want a 300$ necklace, I personally find them really  good and sporty.
 
Durability- Now, if you are thinking of portable use this would come to your mind and let me tell you, These are really Panther Tanks(Used by Germany in WWII), Strong, Robust and Trustworthy. Will survive much more than a fall. Feel free to carry them even in Afghanistan.
 
Comfort- Yeah, They are not your pillow on which you could go for a nap, To be fair, they do need some time to get used do, The earpads are pleathered, which is plastic+leather, (for 150$ they really can't give you real leather), Thus turning them surprisingly hot after long continuous use. The clamping force is another issue to take care of, I advice you to stretch them according to your head size and comfort, once done, They are good to go, Regarding the earcups- They are a cons. of closed/sealed headphone, so be prepared to sacrifice some comfort for isolation and portability.
 
Portability and isolation- They are not as portable as a Sennheiser PX100/200, They do fold but not as much to be treated as purely portable cans, However, If you can manage the cord and get comfortable with the headband/earpad , they can be portable,. They swivel and fold well small enough to be kept in the pouch/bag. This makes them multifunctional. They are pretty light as well for a full sized headphone.
 
Regarding Isolation, I would say they do isolate pretty well, I haven't really compared them with Bose/Beats but they use active isolation and these are passive. Still, I can assure you , traffic noise, metro announcements, irritating people nearby will be blocked off and the leakage is also under permissible levels. You will never be able to crank up the sound so much that they start leaking, they will just blow your ears before that , so don't expect much leakage at reasonable listening levels.
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Sound Quality-
 
Lows/Bass- Now, They are bass heavy headphones, Not nearly as bass overpowering or extenuated as other headphones, but they definitely have a LOT of bass. The one thing which i noticed was that the bass did go fairly  low, but was not as tight for my liking. I really do advice you to go for a Fiio E6 if you intent to use them with ipod/pmp, Otherwise you can go for Fiio E7/10 for laptop. Post use of an amp, the bass is really tight and extended. Still , these headphones offer the best bass amongst Sony ZX700/Shure SRH840/ Beats, so for bass lovers they are perfect.
 
Mids- Hmmm..Don't compare with 500$+ category, The mids are still pretty balanced and neutral sounding. I still think that Sony ZX700/Shure SRH 840 has a bit forward range here, but overall when you listen to the M50 , the sound comes really balanced and pretty natural, You could always adjust the EQ for your need. Mids could be regarded as a lower point.
 
Highs- Again, pretty relaxed and a bit bright. It does have a brighter profile then some others. This could be both a downside and positive, I still think that M50 manage the highs quite well in its price range.
 
Vocals/SoundStage- Vocals are clear, though the bass can sometimes overpower if you chose the bass boost or turn the amp to high bass. Still I felt these headphones have a good vocal range. Soundstage surprisingly is pretty good for this type of headphone.
 
Genre- These sound good with most, Electronic, Hip-hop, Techno, Metal/rock,Dance/Party etc. Perhaps, accoustic and jazz/classic music could be better suited with Shure's as they have a better midrange , though you compromise on bass and the highs.
 
Additional Thoughts/Information- Do get an amp for them, need not spend 200-300, but anything under 100. I think for portable users Fiio E6 does the job well, if you use them primarly for home/laptop, consider getting the Fiio E7/10. The bass seems much more tighter and deeper and the overall sound is improved considerably making it rich .
 
Final Words: When a device gets so many positive reviews there's gotta be a reason, and the reason is the all in one package which ATH M50 gives you. Shure SRH840/SONY ZX700 are headphones you can look as well according to your needs, but to sum it up- You can't really go wrong with these, The overall sound quality is very good for the price and their ability to be used for portable purpose increases their funcionality. Comfort wise, stretching the headband really helps and would eliminate the clamping effect and you will get used to the earpad.
 
I give them a solid 4.5 star Rating.
 
 
 
 
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tdockweiler
tdockweiler
Pretty much exactly how I heard them too. The older version is slightly worse and has even more bloated bass and even more recessed mids. Nothing too bad though.
I'm glad you mentioned the amp. Not required, but they sound so much better with one.
My favorite amp for them was the Nuforce Icon Mobile. Reduces the bass and rolls off the high end. You can guess what that does for the mids! E5 is good too.
Seems the soundstage also gets larger with some decent amping and a DAC.
I only got rid of my M50 due to it's mids. M50 and D2000's mids just don't do it for me, but still good headphones.
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Zub-a-Roo

100+ Head-Fier
Pros: Big Bass, Good Highs, comfortable, affordable audio
Cons: spring on cord pulls away from jack :(
Bought off another headfi member used but in excellent condition.  Very impressed with bass impact.  Sounds great through tubes or Soild State.  Great audiophile introduction headphone.  The Audio Technica ATH-M50s has found a place in my arsenal directly underneath the "big three".

Spriggs

100+ Head-Fier
Very good headphones for the price.
Zub-a-Roo
Zub-a-Roo
What type of listening do you do with your ATH-M50
GoldiLocks
GoldiLocks
Do elaborate

Dudwasup

New Head-Fier
Pros: great sound, comfortable
Cons: They dont do my Homework
These are great headphones. For 160$ i wasn't sure how good these would be but wow they are amazing. the mids are very good and highs aren't bad either, and the bass isn't overpowering to the rest of the track. they are also very comfortable wearing for long periods of time.

MattTCG

Headphoneus Supremus
Pros: Plays almost everything well
Cons: Comfort
Just wanted to share my thoughts on the vaunted m50's...not that more reviews are needed. First off, I couldn't be happier with them except for the comfort level. I need a break from them after about an hour and it's a tough concession as I really don't want to take them off!! I plan to stretch them out a little and see if it makes a difference. 
 
The best way that I can describe the m50's is that they seem to be able to play just about any genre well...effortlessly. The sound is rich, articulate, a bit heavy on the bass (which I like) and inviting. The sound signature is perfect for me. I just like the way that they sound in nearly every category. The other headphones that I owned have been put through the artificial burn in period. When I put these on my head, I just didn't feel the need to give them a burn in period. I just wanted to listen, and listen and listen. I will let them burn in naturally as I use them. I just don't feel the need to get better sound from them out of the box. They are that good to me.
 
These are not what I would budget/bang for the buck phones. They feel expensive, look expensive and sound expensive IMO. The fact that they can be had for around $100 may change that equation though. Maybe the best compliment that I can pay the m50's is that when I put them on I stop listening to the audio quality and just get lost in my music. The second best compliment is that they curbed my desire to go and buy "a better" pair of headphones. How long will that last? Don't know. 
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The cable is nice and thick and metal coiled at the terminated end...nice touch. They are drive nicely without any amp. They have a heft to them that suggest the quality of the build. What would I change about them? I wish that they had more comfortable pads. That's it really. 
 
If anyone is on the fence about these, don't be just buy them and enjoy!!

tribestros

100+ Head-Fier
Pros: Nice highs and mids, comfortable
Cons: Terribly artificial bass, NOT "monitors" (that's why nobody uses them as monitors), laughable build quality
 
There's always one.  Every good thing has a dissenter, and that's me.  The ATH-M50 cannot handle songs with lots of different lower frequencies going on at once because of the artificial bass extension.  For example, Nine Inch Nails' "Heresy" is a very challenging song to play on headphones; it sounds like crap on my car stereo because the subwoofer is confused on which notes to play, so too low of frequencies overpower what should be playing louder.  The M50s do the same on the FLAC version of it.  The impacts of the kick-drum are far quieter than the bass in the verses.  It's incredibly annoying.  The bass is so sloppy and uncontrolled.  Another good example, Smashing Pumpkins' "Thirty-Three", in which there is a subtle background bass that tends to get incredibly emphasized to the point it's unlistenable on car subwoofers/headphones with poor bass response.  The ATH-M50 do this.  Luckily, they have really nice mids and respectable highs.  Yet, it's shocking they bill these as monitors, they're horribly unbalanced towards the lower-end.  These headphones main competitor, the HD280Pro, are superior in every way, except for the clamping force.  Not a producer I can think of uses these, either.  NOT monitors.
 
The build quality is a joke.  I went through three earpads in a year before the right speaker stopped working and the connector to the iPod got frayed.  They seem big and durable, but I've had lesser headphones be more durable.  I thought they were comfortable.  But the praise on here is sickening and misguided.  Do y'all get paid by Audio-Technica?  And at their new price, they are an even worse deal.
Chris Ihao
Chris Ihao
Hmm. I finally bought some new pads to replace the HORRIBLE factory ones (SHR 840), and now I can use them without excruciating pain after a few minutes. Although I have purchased better, much more expensive hp's since then I have to say I'm very impressed by the sound.

This is however using the Aune T1 as DAC/amplifier, and I find that this amp brings out the best of them. Much more energetic and balanced sound, and I like how the non-reference sound works excellently on electronic music (bass is big, and yes; completely unnatural). Very fun and engaging. I don't think I will choose them before my HD650's for allround usage (and in particular mixing), but they certainly pull their weight in other genres as well, and I will probably bring them on trips now and then. I would say they are very far from being junk. Each to ones own I guess.
LajostheHun
LajostheHun
haters unite
Matt Taylor
Matt Taylor
terrible review, these are monitor headphones i guess you may be one of those people who looks at the response curve and because it isnt a consistent curve or straight line, assumes that this means it has "bass extension" whatever that is. The fact is, you will struggle to find a more neutral less forgiving pair of headphones and on some occasions this may mean that you hear the woeful quality of the mix (which may have been tuned for people with more forgiving headphones) I accept that the sound may not be for everyone but to question the type of product as fundamentally flawed given the very long and well respected history of audio technica as experts in monitors, is ignorant and arrogant. OK you don't like them but please spare us the amateur critique "sloppy bass" .. get over yourself.

Agony

100+ Head-Fier
Pros: Mids sound great, doesn't require an amp, balanced sound.
Cons: Bass isn't as punchy as I wanted, trebles get a bit trilly and sharp at high volumes, needs 40+ hours of burn-in.
I know there are too many reviews for these cans, but I thought I should put out my 2 cents. Keep in mind these are my first set of "real" headphones, as before this, the highest I shelled out was $79 for a set of Astro IEMs, which no one here has probably heard of. Anyway, let's begin.
 
Design These just look amazing. They're slick, and the circular metal ring on each of the earcups looks great and adds that "expensive" look. I wouldn't mind being caught wearing these in public, and they look better than Beats, at least in my opinion. The DJ articulation is nice, as I DJ at a lot of school events. The only flaw with the design is the huge Audio-Technica written on the band. Not a major issue, rest assured, but I feel it takes away from the look just a bit.
 
Price : Quality Ratio I've auditioned some of the other headphones offered by Sennheiser and V-Moda just above this price range, and I can easily, without a doubt, state that these are the best headphones you will find at a $100-$199 price range, and I think many of the other Head-Fi'ers will agree. If you're looking for cheap headphones that can perform, pull the trigger on Audio Technica.
 
Comfort: I have a quite small head, so the tight clench feels nice for me. Many of the others review state comfort as an issue, and that the pleather gets sweaty. An easy fix-up is to just buy different pads, and break them in as you would break in a baseball glove. Don't smack it with a ball, just stretch them out over a box slightly larger than your head during burn-in.
 
Sound Quality
 
First Impressions: I didn't bother to burn these in, I was too eager to see why this was the number one headphone at it's price range. I put them on my head, plugged them in unamped to my 4S, and I was immediately in shock. They sounded barely any different from my Skullcandy FMJ buds. I decided it was time to give in and burn them in for a good 48 hours.
 
After Burn-In: It was a night and day difference from the pre-burn in state. The soundstage widely improved, but it was still outplayed by some open ear cans I've heard. The sound signature itself is warm and balanced. They can't handle volume very well, as once it enters the higher volumes, treble gets very sharp, mids get a bit recessed, and the bass doesn't become all that much more present than it usually does at higher volumes. Keep in mind, these are monitor headphones, so they were built for recording and mixing. They will have a very flat-as-a-ruler sound, so EQ-ing for different genres is going to be needed for good sound. The "Rock" equalizer on my 4S seemed to clear things up for most genres, so I find myself using that a lot. Overall, these sound great, with clear trebles, great mids, and clean bass. I even got one of my friends with Beats Pro to say they were great. Most people with those horrible things usually try to justify their purchase by saying everything else is horrible.
 
Bottom Line If you're looking for cheap headphones with relatively great sound quality compared to other headphones in its price range, take a look at these. They can be bought at $119 at SoundProfessionals.com, so check them out - they even have burned-in, yet new, M50s for sale.
 
Bass: Clean and crisp, but not as punchy as I'd like.
Mids: Can be recessed at high volumes, excels everywhere else.
Highs: Only problem with the highs is that they get very sharp at high volumes.
Soundstage: Not the best, but it's decent.
 
tl;dr Amazing quality for the price, burn them in before judging the sound. No need for an amp.
 
Thanks for reading my review, I'll catch you on the flipside.
-Agony
 
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Superatomic
Superatomic
re: burn in, you are saying 40 hours of "pink" noise then?

LazBro123

500+ Head-Fier
Pros: Sound quality, Bass response, Comfort, Durability, Construction, Style
Cons: No detachable cable, Cable is a bit too long
     These headphones are incredible. Fantastic sound quality. The bass response is really, really nice. It's well defined, accurate and strong, but it's not overpowering. The mids and highs are awesome too. Very crisp and I heard things in my music that I haven't heard with my other headphones. As well, these headphones look really nice and are really comfortable. The only things I do not like about these headphones is the very long straight cable. I always have to hold a bit of the cable when i'm listening to music on my iPod or my computer. Overall, amazing pair of headphones, for an amazing price! I would pay more than 200 dollars for these headphones. They are that good. Buy them.

dysthanasiac

Head-Fier
Pros: A great combination of perfomance, value, comfort and value. And did I mention value?
Cons: Low and high end have a tendancy to become unhinged. Mid-range clarity has a tendancy to vanish.
To give my thoughts some context, I wouldn't call myself an audiophile.  I have an eclectic taste and appreciation for music, which I listen to on an iPod Classic.  The most "hi-fi" audio equipment I've ever owned is the pair of Ultimate Ears Super.f1 5 Pro earphones that I'd still be enjoying happily if the right 'phone hadn't developed an annoying buzz.  I can rarely discern an audible difference between songs encoded in 320 kbps formats and their lossless counterparts, but, the inferiority of sub-320 kbps files is often very apparent to my ears.
 
That said, I do enjoy well-presented music.  It might very well be my favorite thing in the whole world. 
 
After doing some light reading about headphones, I began my search for new ones with a conscious decision to avoid even auditioning open-air headphones.  I've never tried them, and I became convinced by my reading that I'd likely fall in love with all of the qualities that seem to have made them the consensus choice for audiophiles around the world, and I feared I would then end up spending far too much money (for me) on a pair of "36-24-36" Sennheisers or others like them.  The majority of what I read on the subject seemed to indicate that closed headphones offer the best value for the money, so that's the route I chose.
 
Please keep all of this in mind when judging my use of the superlatives that are bound to follow.  I may not use certain words the way others who are more experienced in this realm may use them.  Just bear with me on that.
 
These are fine headphones.  It's really as simple as that. 
 
They provide full-bodied bass that never loses its natural texture.  Whether you're listening to music in which the raw tactility of the bass tones is just as important as the notes being played or music that features a delicate and measured response, these headphones don't just reproduce those sounds, they reproduce them very, very well.
 
Mid-range tones are loud, clear, and so readily apparent that they're never muddied by the bass tones, no matter how far the two may occasionally overlap within the same sonic space.  They remain distinct at all times, moving freely within the mix whenever the music requires it.
 
I feel like these headphones really shine - pun semi-intended - when it comes to the high-frequency tones, even though my inexperience may prevent that from being a truly accurate statement.  I think it's easy to forget sometimes just how important those highs are to music.  Hi-hats and ride cymbals are, in fact, a major driving force.  Crash, trash and splash cymbals are, indeed, important punctuations.  Each singular stroke is just as important as the next, no matter how quickly it may follow.  And these headphones just do it every time with highs that are loud, clear, distinct and never harsh.
 
Perhaps most impressive of all is the ability of these headphones to expose the natural character of the instruments within the music, an effect far too often lost when listening to them through the many layers of any recorded media.  I believe that's referred to as transparency. 
 
A snare drum being struck no longer sounds like "just" that; what you hear instead is the complex interaction between the drum stick, the drum head, the snares and the shell, components whose construction and combination were expressly chosen by the drummer, being used in concert with his talents and technique to produce a desired effect only achieved with that singular formula.  You hear that with these headphones.  By the same token, guitars and basses become the glorious sum of the various woods, hardware and amplification chosen by musicians utilizing their myriad skills to play them rather than just the notes they chose to play.  I've found this quality present in every piece of music to which I've listened through these headphones, and the effect is positively magisterial.
 
When all of these elements are combined as harmoniously as these headphone combine them, I can't describe the joy I get from the music I hear, even that which is as familiar to me as the back of my hand.  These headphones are a revelation.
 
And for the price?  They're worth more than what I paid for them, especially when judged against others at the same price point and even those priced considerably above it.  I did that, and these headphones won with ease every single time.
 
I think the often-seen criticism that mid-range frequencies are recessed in these headphones is more rooted in the fact that mid-range tones are the easiest to reproduce and most headphones and speakers generally tend to get that part right.  However, low and high range sounds are an altogether different beast, and, as a result, aren't often presented correctly.  I think it's easy to merely perceive the mid-range to be lacking when sandwiched between low and high ranges that are not.
 
And I suppose it's only fair that a review also include any perceived negatives.  To that end, they have a nasty tendency to expose poor music production and mastering, but what can you really do about that?  They're also not the best-looking headphones I've ever seen.  In that regard, I guess it's good that they're headphones and not a hat or something.  And they do tend to warm my ears a bit.  Just a bit, though.  (But, they're nonetheless very light and comfortable, and I've found that the range of articulation provided by the swiveled cups, a feature often derided, is actually quite helpful for maintaining constant and even contact while wearing them.)
 
I awarded "only" 4.5 stars to these headphones for Audio Quality out of consideration for my lack of experience.  I didn't think it would be fair to give them a full five since, admittedly, I haven't listened to everything offered.  I honestly hope I don't ever hear something better, though, unless I can also afford to buy it, as I think such a tease would be equally unfair.  Luckily for me, I think these headphones are going to be extremely difficult to top.
 
UPDATE: Burn-in can be an evil mistress.  I'll elaborate later.
GruberEXN
GruberEXN
Good to know that! Just purchased it. :D
dysthanasiac
dysthanasiac
Thanks for the comments. I made an edit to reflect the fact that I listened to other headphone when choosing the the ATH-M50s. As this is a review rather than a comparison, I didn't find it necessary to detail what I ultimately passed over. I also added another section whose omission dumbfounded me when I realized I forgot to include it in my first draft. Thanks again for reading.
Coq de Combat
Coq de Combat
It was a good review. I fully agree with everything you say. I've had many, many headphones and right now the M50s and the D2000 are my favorites by far. Still searching for something better than the M50 for portable use.

jc222284

100+ Head-Fier

Danchou

Head-Fier
Pros: Sound- and build quality, value, looks, soundstage and imaging (for a closed can)
Cons: pleather gets sweaty, some beats/ drums are overpresent
Overall:
The ATH-M50 is a well built, beatiful HP. It has swivel earcups and comfortable high quality pleather pads. It comes in big white box with a leather bag and a 6,3 mm jack.
(ATH-M50 and ATH-M50S are the same HP. M50s has straight(S) cable, M50 has coiled.

Sound:
The ATH-M50 sound great out of the box, but started to shine after ~50 hours of burn in.
They sound detailed, refined and balanced, with a strong but controlled bass.
The biggest quality of the M50s is, that they don't really do anything wrong. They performed pretty good with evrything I threw at them, and their sonic performance is outstanding in this price class.
I think it is hard to dislike them at all, but experienced audiophiles may find them to sound "clinical" or "booring", because they don't really shine at anything.
Newcomer audiophiles on the other hand will be blown away for sure.

The ATH-M50 made me realise, that a good HP is not all about sound quality.
A HP this expensive really has to fill all it's owners needs.
For me the isolation just didn't do it, and the pleather pads got my ears sweaty all the time.
But that's cause I used them as a portable HP mainly, which they were not designed to be.
Now with a high end portable HP (hd 25-1) I am as happy as i can be.

Conclusion:
The Audio Technica ATH-M50 is a excellent Headphone with outstanding sound quality in it's price class, but I would not recommend it as a portable HP.
Newcomers to audiophile equipment can't go wrong with this.

koolkat

1000+ Head-Fier
Pros: Folds up, better build quality.
Cons: Uncomfortable, boring sound.
First and foremost, I didn't buy these. Put in bogus purchase dates or it won't let me submit.
 
It was a really short audition, roughly 15 minutes. 
And this will be an equally short review.
 
In fifteen minutes I found out six good/bad things about the M50
 
1) Boring sound signature.
2) Very clampy head band.
3) Uncomfortable ear pads.
4) They are not as revealing as some say they are.
5) Loved the coiled cable. Very thick and solid.
6) collapsible, iirc.
 
I suppose point 2 and 3 aren't deal breakers since headphones
do get more comfortable over time.
 
The M50 wasn't worth S$240. It surely didn't sound like $240
to me. I auditioned the M50 and the Grado SR80, and I preferred
SR80's sound signature. 
 
The M50s are not overly revealing headphones. I suppose this could
be largely due to my mediocre DAP (fat PSP). They just sounded flat.
Didn't stand out in any department.
 
 
I suppose this is how Studio Monitor headphones should sound like...
I haven't tried the Sony MDR V6 or 7506 which are recommended quite
often to those looking to produce/mix music.
 
Btw, I was auditioning this at the time when everyone was recommending M50
to newcomers - June/July of 2011? I was like "Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat" when
I put them on. They're decent headphones but they certainly are not worth US150
or SGD240. 
 
I'm not a fan of the design either.
 
 
PhoenixClaw
PhoenixClaw
You're in Singapore right? You can get it for SGD 189. I have the M50s and they're really good starting headphones. I've tried many other models around the price range but for beginners the M50 is pretty tough to beat. Others might like a different presentation of sound, so YMMV.
XxDobermanxX
XxDobermanxX
Good review lol
gearofwar
gearofwar
this headphone needs a good amount of time to burn in before it can reach its potential, you was simply a fool for denying it......

Vonx

100+ Head-Fier
Pros: Inexpendable value, dynamic, great feel and look, decent sound
Cons: Shrill highs at high volume, can distort, mids recessed, muddy and slow, weak sound stage
Before i get on to the sound, I will give you a summerized box reaction. Looking at these through the plastic box, they have an almost ikea asthetic about them, sort of a minimal hipster look. They have a funky way of sitting in the box and i couldnt help but hope they didnt sound as minimal as the looked through the box. However, as soon as i pulled them out and felt them in my hand and got a better look, i almost soiled myself. The headband and pleather pads are just about some of the comfiest things ive ever put my hands on. They just looked like they were MEANT to be worn and loved.
 
After seeing them in a 360 degree view, they just looked beautiful. Pictures do not do justice to the beauty of these headphones, but with a poor quality camera and some poor camera work, i tried :)
 
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I couldnt help but sneak them on my head after fondling the pads with my hands. They felt DECADENT! 
 
So, naturally, i have far too much curiosity at this point to not give them a listen before burn in, so i plugged them straight into my ipods headphone jack and hit shuffle. 
 
3 words: Muddy, distant, recessed mids :frowning2: I thought i might have been sent a dud or that they needed a lot more power than they might have assumed with their low impedence. So without further adue, i will move in to a thorough description of my first impressions. 
 
First Impressions:
 
Low Volume: Bass seemed a little muddy, voices noticeably more recessed than the rest of the sound signature, and i NEVER though i would be a stickler about voices. It is so blatantly apparent that even my relatively untrained and non-analytical ear became frustrated by it. Sound seems very "in front of you", but not in terms of distance; i mean in terms of direction. Yep, that means very little sound stage, almost none. I have 50$ IEM's that have better sound staging than these, however that might be preferred for some people to have a more center focused and distant sound. The distance feels as though your at least 15 seats back from the front stage. You feel as though your in the same room as the music, just very far away from the speakers. Very little sound stage. You definately know your wearing headphones. Snare doesn't have correct timbre.
 
High volume: Snare and voices more natural sounding but definately "behind" the lead guitars and bass guitars when listening to rock. I would never consider myself a guy that would notice recessed vocals but it was just so obvious that it made it uncomfortable and certainly not balanced listening. I know for a fact that the vocals were not that recessed in the recording. It wasn't horribly bad, it just sounded like the vocals were playing at a different volume level than the bass guitars and lead guitars and percussion. Guitars in high notes sound shrill and extremely bright with some distortion. 
 
Fit: comfortable, sturdy, very nice fit for my head at the stock settings. However, after about 10 minutes of listening i already could feel my ears sweating to the point where the pleather was actually sticking to my ears! Clamping force was noticeable but i liked it, sort of like they were giving you a nice big bear hug. I could see how it might bother some people, but i like it. Rest assured it could be easily fixed by stretching them out over a box while burning them in.
 
Overall verdict of first impressions: i just wasted $150 bucks, hugely overhyped 
 
 
After 100 hours of burn in: Much better sounding! All the previous querks still noticeable but are far more tolerable, bass is very nice and strong hitting on any low frequency range thrown at it, but definately not overpowered. Maybe slightly emphasiszed, but not overpowering. Bass in these will only sound overpowering if you bought them after listening to a bass-less headphone like the akg 701's. Highs are still shrill and bright and painful to listen to, however the distortion issue is gone. Mids are still indeed very, very recessed. 
 
These headphones, even in their best genre which i would argue to be electronic, feel way to far from the source of music for my liking. I stated earlier that they feel about 15 rows back from the stage; thats being generous. I feel like i'm sitting in an auditorium designed to house very loud volumes and heavy rock bands, but hearing a highschool band play on a fer marshal amps sitting right next to them up front on the stage, very far away. However, the sound that is coming from very far away and very centered, is a very balanced and high quality sound. 
 
In order to get the engagement I want from these headphones, I am constantly motivated to turn them up to extremely high volumes, because that brings me much closer to the stage and the instruments start to tune up and come alive at high volumes. However, even at the highest volumes, the mids are still noticeable recessed even to an undiscerning ear. Also, the trade off is that in order to get the volume and engagement and louder vocals, the highs become unbearable (atleast to me) at high volumes on some types of music, especially rock with high pitched guitars. A guitar solo is too painful to hear and its sad because guitar solos are some of my favorite parts of music to hear.
 
Verdict: They have a great balanced sound with emphasis on the low end, very little sound stage, seems "far away", slow and hard to keep up on complex music with lots going on (sort of like if you had a balanced steak dinner with a side of green beans and mash potatoes, and someone took them and mushed them in a blender and poured the result into a soup bowl and handed it to you), with bright and sometimes painful highs. Certainly a capable headphone with its own personaility that may fit some types of listeners, and is a high quality headphone worth its price. If you like to feel close and engaged with your music, dont buy. It just isnt worth the ear damage you will inevitably get trying to compensate by turning up the volume extremely loud. 
 
It is worth the plunge for anyone to try who hasnt really decided what type of music listener they are. This is for a relaxed listener who wants to keep its distance from the music, with warm bass and harsh and engaging highs, with recessed mids. At this price, these are a steal and if you decide you dont like them, they are a great reference phone to compare other headphones in the future should you choose to upgrade. They are balanced but distanced.
 
LET THEM BURN IN BEFORE YOU JUDGE!
 
Peace, love, happiness, and a good pair of headphones to all !
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Vonx
Vonx
Let me give you my end-month impressions for those who would like to see long use impressions.
These headphones still have all the flaws aforementioned, especially in the exaggerated treble. I hate how they attempted to produce more engaging highs by making them blaringly bright. Mids are still recessed as ever once were, which I am not okay with in any headphone.
Also, anybody who thinks these sound even somewhat okay out of the box is out of their mind. They need tons of burn in and I am still noticing improvements with over 400+ hours on them. However, that does not make them an outstanding headphones because they keep improving, because they were so horrible before burn in that i thought I had been sent a dud. Now they are merely an acceptable headphone that excells in no field.
They do still have a very nice sense of clarity, but it seems sort of digital and fake, sort of if they were tuned from worse sounding drivers to give the impression of a better sounding headphone. They sort of achieve it, but absolutely nothing sounds analog and natural about it.
They are extremely revealing and really do tune up with good quality headphone amps.
I will be finished with my last words for this long term review in saying that they are bright, but not in a high clarity way, just in a digital enhancement of high frequencies to similuate high quality high frequencies. Mids are very much behind the music an entire elvel, percussion (since most of its in the midrange listening range except for thumbing bass) is very non-present, and as a percussionist, this bothers me. Lows are nice but a bit bloaty and muddy and slow. The power in which they behold is a nice specticle but they sure arent the most finely tuned bass ive heard.
A decent headphone, but for $150, there are loads of headphones of a much higher tier of quality in a sight price range above. Use your money resided for these as a down payment for headphones truly have the quality they try to portray, rather than digitally tuning it and simulating it poorly.
kbomb
kbomb
Thanks for such your detailed review.    It was such a relief to read, because your experience with these headphones is exactly identical to mine, and I am puzzled at the huge number of 5 star reviews.     I'm not an audiophile, but I moved to these when my Grado SR125s died, so I'm used to good headphones.    My first reaction to these was, "Why am I not feeling anything?"    
 
Gradually I figured it out:    it was the clearly recessed mids you complain about -- along with excessive treble, and boomy bass that seemed lacking in detail.     The whole effect was to keep me from feeling much emotion -- which for me makes them unworthy even of four stars.   I returned them, though I definitely did it reluctantly.    I kept thinking, "Surely I'm missing something.   Everyone seems to like these.   Maybe another 20 hours of burn in?"   But the essential problems remained the same after all kinds of burn-in, exactly as with you.
 
On "Help" by The Beatles, Ringo and John Lennon sounded about equally loud.     On every other piece of audio equipment I've used, Lennon is way out in front, and Ringo is keeping a very simple beat in the background.      It's like Lennon is standing a few feet back from the microphone on these headphones.     This experience (along with truly annoying experiences of sibilance) was repeated over a broad range of music I listened to over a nine day period while I tried these out.
 
"Recessed mids" is such a dry-sounding term, but it really translates as, "The heart of the music is missing."     Usually the mids are where the melody is, and the melody is where the heart of the piece is.    So it is a very big deal.
 
Still, our experience is so unlike that of other people, it makes me wonder if it's a quality standards problem.    Are we all hearing the same headphone?    Or are some built better than others?    In any case, it was a relief to find someone who hears what I heard in listening to these.

mattphones

New Head-Fier
Pros: Price, Sound, Comfort, Quality. Loud.
Cons: can fatigue some when worn longer than 5 hours.
Nothing to add off of other reviews. Simply the best headphone purchase dollar for feature that Ive ever made. 
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BLACKENEDPLAGUE

1000+ Head-Fier
Pros: Sound good overall, looks good
Cons: Tight fit, uber long cord, has a muddy tone, the closed design and leather pads induce sweating
Okay I'm not going to fill this area with a bunch of BS terms I'm just going to say it straight up.
 
I bought the headphones from a really nice used shop locally, and I was told they were pretty decent. Upon first applying them to the not forehead (because that would be dumb behavior), I noticed the isolation was quite impressive. The guy that worked there was talking but I couldn't hear a damned thing he was saying. The song I tested it with was King Crimson's "Epitaph." The power they gave off was very nice and despite what the assistant said, the bass was of a great level, not too high and not too low. When I got home I listened to American IV by Johnny cash and let me tell you, PURE MAGIC.
 
A couple gripes I had: The fit was pretty tight so I wasn't able to wear them longer than 7-10 minutes at a time, the cord is long as hell so I was sitting in my computer chair holding 75% of it, and the condition they were in was less than stellar. The ear pads were beat to hell, given this means nothing if you buy them new or used from a decent person, but there was no way I would keep the cans and pay $20 for replacement pads. I mean heck at that point I might as well buy them new!
 
I'll will be getting another pair down the line but as of no I can't afford it.
 
These headphones are highly recommended by the community and there is a reason why; If you get these things in new/good condition THEY ARE WORTH EVERY PENNY, and if you get them for a steal of a deal then that just makes them better!
 
EDIT - Now that I have a new pair this can be updated. The music sounds muddy, especially in the mids and highs. I don't know if this goes away after burn-in or not but it isn't that big of a deal.

azoapes

New Head-Fier
Pros: Great sound, good enough for mixing. Very isolated. The weight and design gives a quality impression.
Cons: The treble is a bit sharp, even after the 40 h warmup. Long sessions will create spot pressure on the top of your head.
My title, pros and cons sums it up rather well. Do NOT forget to warm these babies up for at least 30 h. They will change a lot in character, the first experience might be horrible, whilst after 40 h you love them.
 
It should be added that the treble sensitivity of your ears will affect your liking of these. Very demanding ears have listened to these and come to totally different conclusions. So listen to these at your local store before buying, your ears might not like the intense treble.
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1eye1derweasil

New Head-Fier
Pros: Sound and build quality
Cons: Mids are recessed
For the right price these are worth it. At 80-100$ they're a good buy. At MSRP of 150$ I would pass. 

Excellent bass extension; play well out of mp3 players as well as amps; very detailed and "fun" sounding. Lacking in the midrange for vocals personally. Great for bassheads, neutral fans look elsewhere.

A good cheap substitute for these would be the Panasonic HTF600, performing at close to 90% the same sound quality @ 30$ 

reivaj

1000+ Head-Fier
Pros: Attracts women, completely encompasses my dome , authentic leather smell , can act like tiny speakers for my tv when laying on the couch
Cons: not in white, does not come with sunglasses
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1eye1derweasil
1eye1derweasil
a white with black/silver highlights would be divine :)
crinacle
crinacle
You sir, deserve a cookie.
LazBro123
LazBro123
best review on head-fi

crinacle

Member of the Trade: In-Ear Fidelity
Pros: Excellent bass reproduction for tracking, smoothness in sound, versatility, comfort, portability
Cons: Bass reverb may be a little too much to those who work with neutral cans, mids are slightly recessed, soundstaging could be bigger
whoofman
whoofman
I thought the mids on the M50s were recessed a little too until I paired them with the Fiios E9/E7 amp/dac.  The mids were definately brought forward in my opinion.  I am using the M50s more now than my Sennheiser HD 650s. 
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