The campaign now shows "Closed" on IGG.

Yeah @stuck limo let me get closure on this nightmare.

Even if Wave backers get this opportunity, I don't see how we can be expected to make a rational decision. Larry's refusal to communicate any meaningful information about potential time frames towards ACTUAL DELIVERY is ridiculous. Why the constant mystery? We deserve a REAL status report of the...

I understand the LHL Customer Outreach people don't have any control over Larry's actions. But for a minute, just detach from your bias to defend the company you voluntarily joined. Since it has taken ~ 60 months for the company to get to this point...haven't you ever applied a logical...

+1 on questions 7, 11, 12, 17 The rest are either too complex for a Q&A format, have already been answered well enough, or are irrelevant IMO. I urge everyone to be thoughtful with their suggestions and not just throw out anything you can think of. What needs to happen to get us our Waves...

Larry lives in a dream world. Notice the title of that post is, "Why the Geek Wave project took so long? Past tense, like the journey is almost over. And that was 1 1/2 years ago.

I meant for a Wave backer regarding the Wave campaign.

Name one thing LHL has done that's worthy of praise from Wave backers.

Yes, but the overall context is never considered properly in Larry's "good news" updates. Using a marathon obstacle course as an analogy...we're supposed to get hopeful because Larry can now get past that traffic jam on Elm St. One day he might be able to clear the pile of garbage bags and...

I challenge you to name any IGG campaign activity that has moved forward in any meaningful way in the last 6 months. To all external observations, LHL is dead, Jim.

The Android partition is just for streaming I believe. We backed a stand-alone DAP with state-of-the-art file playback. There would be mass revolt if we don't get that capability along with whatever they are doing with Android. And the dual OS will only add to their already ridiculous timeframes.

Great! I can accept that explanation. This concludes my latest attempt to get you guys understanding that missing information/lack of detail only makes the PR problem worse.

Even you must be noticing the huge disparity between what Larry "says" will happen, vs what actually happens. The pattern is so established that when he states things like, "we plan on shipping x_number of Source units in July"...we have been well trained not to believe it.

Again a reference to these golden backers, who can override the consensus of all public voices. Not being forthright about the company's financial situation only breeds more speculation from us. Here, I'll start: I think these people are the investors you need money from to avoid bankruptcy...

It's that and other publicly displayed pieces of evidence which tend to make me believe there IS a case for a business fraud lawsuit despite the crowdfunding aspect.

Yeah, where are these golden backers with the ability to change project scope by messaging Jarek directly? NOBODY is more engaged than the regulars posting here and on the IGG board.

Glad to hear there is still progress being made. TIdal is a dying company, so efforts towards that may not be worthwhile.

Yes, I am. If that's the case, why have the IGG campaigns gone dark? If you have been shipping Sources, why hasn't anybody said they've been shipped one?

Jarek, if you become no longer associated with LHL, will you please let us know? All their past comms/community managers have just dropped away without a trace. Having it happen this time could literally mean Larry abandons the campaigns forever and we have no way of knowing when to take...

If they want backers to stop criticizing, it's pretty simple - just deliver what was promised.

Why feel sorry? Jarek made a willing, conscious decision to hitch onto the LarryWagon. If he misjudged the character of the person he freely associates with, that is on him.

So at what point do you go, "Hey Larry, these extended periods of radio silence are hurting you, as well as me by association? Do you want to salvage your company's reputation or not?." Instead, you are sounding more and more resigned to a slow slide into failure (to achieve what you set out to...

Touché. I thought of posting something similar to other demands for details that no crowdfunding campaign is obligated to post. Part of me understands though...after this much history of incompetence, backers feel they need to push extra hard to make sure Larry is on track to actually finish...

Good to hear this!

This is why I reject any statement that tries to paint the backers (as a whole) as over-reacting. When Larry let 100s of support tickets and unresolved issues build up over many MONTHS...that is clear signal of downfall. Even now, they are struggling to work through these tickets. If Larry...