MTW 3 are $150 on Amazon right now..fyi

Apple will rename some codec and say they invented it, then sue everyone that uses it.

I am also happy with the Fit Pros. These must be made without the nickle materials because they have not caused any irritation (for those that are inflicted with that). My only complaint is the case is cheap feeling. Have them with spin fits and ANC is great on flights, could not get proper...

I feel your pain, literally. Dealing with this for over a year, problems started with APPs. Apple was kind enough to buy them back. The Buds pro, Sony xm4, all are no goes for my ears. Immediate itch then discharge…sorry for details. Lot of info out about Beats hook causing same reactions...

Excited to hear about this approach, I am back after a long hiatus due to ear issues. I have learned from my experience that the deep canal buds are not the best for a healthy ear. It appears that the outer ear fitment is being embraced by a lot of companies. I really wanted the Sony...

Thanks for the info!

My I ask what liquid you use to combat the reaction to your ears? I have the same problem and have almost given up on in ear monitors.

There is actually a lot of talk about APP. There are many comparisons that almost make them a reference standard for ANC. Personally the APPs are one of the few Apple products I really like. Unfortunately I must be allergic to them...apple is being kind enough to buy them back.

Lol, I read this post so often that I forget the OP question. I agree with you tomb! They are however addictive because of so many styles and sound signatures...but they all suck when compared to wired.

I do have over the ear cans, I also have hearing loss. That's why ANC is subjective. 😉

That's my point, for me blasting subway sounds over the home hi fi doesn't work. It's not emersive enough I have to be in the environment.

IMHO I think everyone here can agree that sound quality is very subjective, I hope we can all realize that ANC is too. I have learned to completely disregard most opinions of ANC, especially from office or home users "I couldn't hear the AC unit". How can you tell anything about the noise...

Same thing happened for me, stock clerk found them on a top shelf down the headphone isle. The Best Buy floor plan computer does not have a location for them yet. The 85t s are not comfortable to me but I might have a different ear shape than you.