Nice to ear, although the hd700 has a resonance problem for sure. What were your thoughts when going back to the hd600? Eq-ing the hd700 helps for sure. Detail-wise the hd700-driver is the better, also much more modern. That's also the reason why it was used in the hd660s.

Obviously tuning headphones is more difficult than tuning loudspeaker, because you have to take into consideration many more aspects like the transfer function of our ears. Or even the resonance of the air volume between the ear and the driver. Said that, all of these effects are even more...

I could suggest to make the meeting at the TU in Graz if there is no possibility at the TU in Vienna. On weekends, there is no problem for me, getting a room. I just don't know, if someone is interested in coming to Graz for the meeting

These cans are tuned nicely. You will mess up the FR with swapping the pads (like it happens almost all the time, especially with closed hp)

Do you think so? They are still listed in their website.

They may stated this, but the design is obvisously touched by modern Sennheiser products, no wondern since Neumann is part of the Sennheiser GmbH. It also would not make sense if both sub companis totally develope their own drivers. For example: the driver from the HD700 and the HD660s was...

Hello everyone, nice thread discussions going on here. Little bit basic but nevermind. What I really would be interested in, are informations about the driver of the NDH 20. I wonder if they really made a completely new one, or if they redesigned the one of the HD700 and also the HD660, since...

Hey everyone, are we meeting in February? Would be very nice I think.

The HD58x use the same driver as the HD598 not the one from HD580. The HD6xx uses the driver from HD580, HD600 and HD650 althogh the sound from these three headphones is tuned a little different. Keep the HD580. I own a Made in Germany 2nd gen one and it's my all time favourite. I also own...

The original cable costs 99$ at Sennheiser. For comparison: the hd600 cable costs 9.5$ I can't imagine that the cable is limiting the sounds. It even should be better than any 30$ aftermarket cable.

But you bought a cable for 150$. *facepalm*

Of course I'm not going to start discussing if expensive cable are worth it. But removeable cables also have cons, for example a loose connection, which can't happen at a hard wired system. The money to change fix wired cable for several times will be much less than to do a cable mod.

Wow, nice thread, just found it. I'm going to do something similar with the hd700 drivers which don't sound so nice in their original housing. But when they put it in the hd660, I thought they can't be too bad. Arriving upcomming week, I'm interested how they will perform in my prototype :wink...

I own hd580 which is basically a hd600 and the pads are almost as worn as the pads from BrokeSkoolBoi, but I'm not going to change them. They sound great, much better than any new ones. Some friends told me the same. Why do you think the sound get worse?

Unlike speaker, where the most sound shaping part is the driver, when you go to headphones, the whole driver environment is very importing. Talking about the housing, filter inside and ofc the pads. I bought used dt880 in bad condition sounding terrible, but I figured out, that there where 770s...