Calling All "Vintage" Integrated/Receiver Owners
Jul 14, 2017 at 4:24 AM Post #17,311 of 19,143
Thanks, I think I've read it all by now. Some people say it's one of the very best Sansui and that it holds its own sonically against current £1000+ amps. I wouldn't know as I haven't any of those but the less than £250 I paid for it (including shipping) certainly feels like a bargain to me.
 
Jul 21, 2017 at 8:26 PM Post #17,312 of 19,143
Listening a lot more to this:
Setup # 1:
iPod Nano 3rd Gen 8GB loaded with ALAC rips (Various Blues) from CDs > Pure Digital iPod Dock > Coax > Schiit Modi Multibit >Rigid Y cross connect v2 (for Schiit Stack) > PYST RCA > Sansui Aux In > Headphone Jack Out > Beyerdynamic DT880 Manufaktur 600 Ohms.
This setup allows the use of all Sansui Pre Amp controls.
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I am more than happy with the results. I had planned to sell the Sansui, maybe not :)
r2
 
Jul 22, 2017 at 10:59 AM Post #17,313 of 19,143
Listening a lot more to this:
Setup # 1:
iPod Nano 3rd Gen 8GB loaded with ALAC rips (Various Blues) from CDs > Pure Digital iPod Dock > Coax > Schiit Modi Multibit >Rigid Y cross connect v2 (for Schiit Stack) > PYST RCA > Sansui Aux In > Headphone Jack Out > Beyerdynamic DT880 Manufaktur 600 Ohms.
This setup allows the use of all Sansui Pre Amp controls.


I am more than happy with the results. I had planned to sell the Sansui, maybe not :)
r2


That set up looks righteous! Well done, indeed.

ORT
 
Jul 22, 2017 at 11:02 PM Post #17,314 of 19,143
Listening a lot more to this:
Setup # 1:
iPod Nano 3rd Gen 8GB loaded with ALAC rips (Various Blues) from CDs > Pure Digital iPod Dock > Coax > Schiit Modi Multibit >Rigid Y cross connect v2 (for Schiit Stack) > PYST RCA > Sansui Aux In > Headphone Jack Out > Beyerdynamic DT880 Manufaktur 600 Ohms.
This setup allows the use of all Sansui Pre Amp controls.


I am more than happy with the results. I had planned to sell the Sansui, maybe not :)
r2


Wow ! I second OldRoadToad, very nice setup indeed. Congrats. :thumbsup:
 
Jul 25, 2017 at 12:20 PM Post #17,315 of 19,143
Here is the latest news.

Battle of the Amps, this will take a while. I prefer to compare with longer listening sessions, not quick A/B test.
First impressions are .... these Amps have similar SQ.

Based on the specifications the amps are similar

The Pioneer SA 8500 has been serviced by the same shop that did the AU 7700.

Sanusi - 54 watts/channel @ 8 Ohms, < .1% THD, < .15% IM for Pre and Main Amps combined, < .1% IM Main Amp only - Headphone out uses 220 Ohm 1 Watt resistors
1974 -1976

Pioneer - 60 watts/channel @ 8 Ohms, < .1% THD, < .1% IM for Pre and Main Amps combined, - Headphone out uses 150 Ohm 2 Watt resistors
1975-1977

Setup:
Setup # 1:
iPod Nano 3rd Gen 8GB loaded with ALAC rips (Various Blues) from CDs > Pure Digital iPod Dock > Coax > Schiit Modi Multibit > Rigid Y cross connect v2 (for Schiit Stack) > PYST RCA > Sansui Aux In OR Pioneer Aux in > Headphone Jack Out > Beyerdynamic DT880 Manufaktur 600 Ohms.
This setup allows the use of all Pre Amp controls.

Set Up #2
iPod Nano 3rd Gen 8GB loaded with ALAC rips (Various Blues) from CDs > Pure Digital iPod Dock > Coax > Schiit Modi Multibit > Rigid Y cross connect v2 (for Schiit Stack) > Schiit Vali 2 with adapter for 6SN7 tube > Vali 2 Pre Out > Kenable RCA > Sansui OR Pioneer Main Amp IN (Sansui Combined/Separated Switch set to Separated, Pioneer jumpers from Pre to Main are removed) > Headphone Jack Out > Beyerdynamic DT880 Manufaktur 600 Ohms.
This setup only allows control of volume from the Vali 2, the Sansui & Pioneer Pre Amps are off line.

Note - The Beyerdynamic DT880 Manufaktur 600 Ohms continue to impress me out of the Vintage Amps.

JMTC,
r2


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Aug 5, 2017 at 9:53 PM Post #17,316 of 19,143
i just bought a Sansui 1987 Au-x701.... Is this enough old to be called vintage?
 
Aug 5, 2017 at 11:49 PM Post #17,317 of 19,143
i just bought a Sansui 1987 Au-x701.... Is this enough old to be called vintage?


I did a search on the Internet & found some entries/ links which refer to the Au-x701 as a vintage amp.
 
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Aug 6, 2017 at 12:31 AM Post #17,318 of 19,143
i just bought a Sansui 1987 Au-x701.... Is this enough old to be called vintage?


I did a search on the Internet & found some entries/ links which refer to the Au-x701 as a vintage amp.


Thanks... i was not sure about this separation line between vintage and modern....

I think that the AU-x 701 is an audiophile amplifier of very good quality....The only problem i have with, perhaps linked to some synergy with my DT-150 or with my Mission speakers, is that the Au-7700 is also an audiophile marvel, more attuned probably with my gear, in one word i have listen to the Au-X701, 8 hours straight, and i was all along in shock by the difference with the Au-7700... On Hifiengine a guy named "emilien" , a repairman, say that the 7700 was one the best Sansui amplifier for him, period... I think he exagerated, i bought the AU-X701 alpha series amplifier, certain that will be an upgrade for me; by all reviews, a very good amplifier, hi-end one with very detailed imaging,yes, but less good for me than my 7700, that have more tubelike mids to die for and more body to the sound with almost the same details imaging, a bit less perhaps but more analog sounding than digital,more alive, and more real-life sound.... At the end i disconnect the AU-X701, praying that i will never need it....The Au-7700 has almost all i need...His headphone out is more than very good, in fact i think it is better than the headphone out of the 701.... And with Mission cyrus 781 speakers and beyerdynamic DT-150 it is perfect synergy... I will die with him... i now know what marvel that amplifier is , even a so called "better" alpha series amp is only different, and is only that, different, not really better, and in my case with the DT-150 less hi-end than my 7700...:L3000:
 
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Aug 6, 2017 at 5:50 PM Post #17,319 of 19,143
i predict the victory of the Sansui AU-7700... i predict that you will not sell it....If i had the money i would buy a second one ,just in case....:beerchug:

Here is the latest news.

Battle of the Amps, this will take a while. I prefer to compare with longer listening sessions, not quick A/B test.
First impressions are .... these Amps have similar SQ.

Based on the specifications the amps are similar

The Pioneer SA 8500 has been serviced by the same shop that did the AU 7700.

Sanusi - 54 watts/channel @ 8 Ohms, < .1% THD, < .15% IM for Pre and Main Amps combined, < .1% IM Main Amp only - Headphone out uses 220 Ohm 1 Watt resistors
1974 -1976

Pioneer - 60 watts/channel @ 8 Ohms, < .1% THD, < .1% IM for Pre and Main Amps combined, - Headphone out uses 150 Ohm 2 Watt resistors
1975-1977

Setup:
Setup # 1:
iPod Nano 3rd Gen 8GB loaded with ALAC rips (Various Blues) from CDs > Pure Digital iPod Dock > Coax > Schiit Modi Multibit > Rigid Y cross connect v2 (for Schiit Stack) > PYST RCA > Sansui Aux In OR Pioneer Aux in > Headphone Jack Out > Beyerdynamic DT880 Manufaktur 600 Ohms.
This setup allows the use of all Pre Amp controls.

Set Up #2
iPod Nano 3rd Gen 8GB loaded with ALAC rips (Various Blues) from CDs > Pure Digital iPod Dock > Coax > Schiit Modi Multibit > Rigid Y cross connect v2 (for Schiit Stack) > Schiit Vali 2 with adapter for 6SN7 tube > Vali 2 Pre Out > Kenable RCA > Sansui OR Pioneer Main Amp IN (Sansui Combined/Separated Switch set to Separated, Pioneer jumpers from Pre to Main are removed) > Headphone Jack Out > Beyerdynamic DT880 Manufaktur 600 Ohms.
This setup only allows control of volume from the Vali 2, the Sansui & Pioneer Pre Amps are off line.

Note - The Beyerdynamic DT880 Manufaktur 600 Ohms continue to impress me out of the Vintage Amps.

JMTC,
r2


 
Aug 11, 2017 at 2:08 PM Post #17,320 of 19,143
Thanks... i was not sure about this separation line between vintage and modern....

There's no objective cutoff that I've ever heard of, but IMO, to be considered vintage it has to have been produced before digital displays became the norm. Before the 80's.
 
Aug 11, 2017 at 6:50 PM Post #17,321 of 19,143
There's no objective cutoff that I've ever heard of, but IMO, to be considered vintage it has to have been produced before digital displays became the norm. Before the 80's.

I think you are right because there is no common ground between the sound of the Sansui AU-7700 of 1975 and the Sansui AU-X701 of 1988.... The 2 are excellent amplifier, but i must admit i prefer by a long shot with my speakers Mission Cyrus 781 the 7700 that sound analog, tube-like, and with more meat and body, with almost the same details than the 701...But the 701 is way more audiophile, clean, etc On a 10,000 dollars system perhaps that will be better, but with my actual bushmaster dac and mission , and headphone ,beyer DT-150, the 7700 is so liquid, organic, and astounding that i will not upgrade it, except if i inherit a fortune, and perhaps not, if you look for a vintage amplifier, the 7700 is on par with the best Sansui at an affordable price....The 701 of the sansui Alpha series is not better, only different.... My best regards to you...
 
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Aug 16, 2017 at 5:18 PM Post #17,322 of 19,143
Hi,
I'm looking at different vintage amps and are a total vintage newbie.
Hope some will give feedback on the sound signature on the amps I've been looking at:
Akai aa-8030
Marantz 2220
Marantz 1070
Sony 7015
Sony 6050
 
Aug 16, 2017 at 6:49 PM Post #17,323 of 19,143
Haven't had the Akai, but I found marantz house sound to be a little to warm for me.
As the sony's go - I like the 6050. I like the sound, rich, detailed, good. Easy to repair if necessary. Very well made.
The 70xx series is almost as good as the 60xx series.

Hi,
I'm looking at different vintage amps and are a total vintage newbie.
Hope some will give feedback on the sound signature on the amps I've been looking at:
Akai aa-8030
Marantz 2220
Marantz 1070
Sony 7015
Sony 6050
 
Aug 16, 2017 at 7:11 PM Post #17,324 of 19,143
Haven't had the Akai, but I found marantz house sound to be a little to warm for me.
As the sony's go - I like the 6050. I like the sound, rich, detailed, good. Easy to repair if necessary. Very well made.
The 70xx series is almost as good as the 60xx series.

Thanks
I really like the visuals of the Sony's, wood box, they also seem taken good care of.
I read some compared the akai 8080 with NAD160, 8030 is the little brother (same generation)
Also found a Pioneer 8100 just now.
Added to list
Akai aa-8030
Marantz 2220
Marantz 1070
Sony 7015
Sony 6050
Pioneer 8100
 
Aug 16, 2017 at 7:43 PM Post #17,325 of 19,143
I was given a AKAI AM2600 it does work all the functions are all working except for the speaker jacks they are all push in and someone soldered some speaker wires onto the terminals instead of replacing the sockets so i replaced them.The VU meter light is not working i will be replacing that too.I think the BINDING POST are more expensive than the AMP....:)
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