Yes, like I said, they're cheap bastards and don't want to pay to license fee for the better tech, yet can't develop a comparable level of tech. Trying to reword what I said to make apple appear in a better light doesn't change the facts.
Don't pretend to know things you don't know. Every single android phone I've owned in about the last 6 years supported ldac. Name one thats available today that doesn't have ldac or aptx support.
aac is a very old FREE tech yes. Its very limited. Looks like you're reaching for an excuse. LDAC and apt x isn't mature or common? Nah wrong on both counts. (They're also lower latency as well). Is it as mature or common as the lightning plug?
And don't try to twist my words, I never said they don't design their own hardware, I said they don't
MANUFACTURE their own hardware. Never said anything about nvidia, amd or any other company.
I'm not sure what you mean by "designs their own silicon". Is it in reference to SoCs? If thats the case, most other companies like the ones you mentioned also "design their own silicon". I got news for you, all the other companies you mentioned also have "entire divisions dedicated to silicon research" and probably spend more money on R&D than apple for these chips. They're better at it and make a superior product too. Theres a reason why theres no m1 chip for PCs...
Or if you're referring to the fabrication process, no apple has no hand or R&D in that. They don't tell TSMC, "heres the design for the 3nm fabrication process for the new m1 chip". TSMC owns the patent and design for that. They are the most advanced semiconductor manufacturing company in the world, thats why apple, nvidia, amd, etc pays them to make the chips. If they or any other company could do it themselves, I'm sure they would.
This is way over your head.
Knowing about marketing and falling for it are two different things. Like this statement, "iPhones have always performed better than all Android phones out today in raw power & typical day to day usage". This is completely incorrect and blind faith in marketing. They got you good.
I’m going to cover your points one by one, in no particular order:
1. The primary reason there are no equivalents to the M1 or M2 chips is because nobody has bothered to properly invest in bringing ARM to the desktop, due to the significant reliance the PC ecosystem has on the x86 architecture - even RISC-V isn’t currently viable as a replacement due to its immaturity. We would probably have far more efficient PCs if we used an architecture like ARM thats very well known for its efficiency and performance in tight thermal environments, but sadly no company is putting significant resources in bringing ARM to the desktop. That doesn’t mean M1 / M2 aren’t good, which they are, and there are numerous sources and evidence that cements this to be the case.
2. On your further points regarding AptX / LDAC, aptX is a Qualcomm exclusive technology from what I’m aware of. I’ve only ever seen decoders for aptX codecs in their own Snapdragon SoCs - even Windows is unable to decide AptX or LDAC, so it’s not even an Apple issue, it’s a Qualcomm and Sony issue. From what I’m additionally aware of, LDAC is an incredibly expensive technology to license which is why it’s typically only available in Sony’s own headphones or high end Bluetooth headphones where the manufacturer can warrant paying the licensing fee for the technology.
3. By common or mature, I meant the overall amount of devices that use or license the tech, not the technology itself, which is good. And from what I know aptX is like I said exclusive to Qualcomm’s own chips, unless it can be licensed, in which case it hasn’t been licensed by many companies. I already said LDAC and aptX are higher quality codecs than AAC on the Android side. And I didn’t say they aren’t relevant, only that the codecs aren’t ultra popular in that most headphones opt for AAC or SBC decoding unless they’re a high end pair. Have you ever wondered why aptX or LDAC is typically only available on Android phones, and isn’t available on other platforms like Windows or Windows Phone (when that existed lol)?
4. I was using AMD, Google, NVIDIA, etc as examples…I was never saying you were referring to them. I was trying to get my point across by mentioning them as examples.
5. Apple spent $26 billion on R&D alone last year according to their 2022 10-K report - in terms of R&D spending they’re one of the top companies in terms of R&D spend, and probably the biggest tech company that spends that much. Amazon spent $50 billion on R&D but they aren’t in the same categories as Apple.
6. Neither AMD or Intel compete with Apple’s silicon for example. Apples silicon is entirely ARM based and AMD and Intel have no ARM CPUs, they only focus on x86. Not to mention Apple silicon is proprietary to Apple’s own products, so they can’t really compete with Apple anyways. Competition implies competing in the same segments, however Apple doesn’t sell their chips to the public.
7. I never said Apple had a say in the fabrication process? Only that Apple
designs their own silicon and sends it off to TSMC for manufacturing. They also request the node that TSMC uses to fabricate the silicon from, e.g. 3nm or 5nm when the said process node is ready to be used. I did not say that they design the node fabrication process. Apple literally just requested TSMC’s entire initial allocation for silicon manufactured on the 3nm node for their A17 chip to be used in the upcoming iPhone.
Also I honestly disagree with your sentiment that companies make better silicon than Apple, when they don’t. Apple is the only company that uses SoCs based on the ARM architecture in their laptop and desktop computers, and as I said earlier in this thread, they are the best performing ARM processors in the desktop and laptop computing landscape.
Also, like I said, I have both the S22 Ultra and an iPhone. In my personal experience, my iPhone has performed better than my S22 Ultra. And my friend who has a Pixel 7 Pro has also said that the iPhone performs better. I have no idea why you’re so anti-Apple to the point of saying false claims, but they aren’t helpful. It has nothing to do with marketing and I don’t appreciate the implication that I’m being fed the marketing and drinking it up like it’s kool-aid. That is severely unfair and unkind to me, as I literally said I never read into the marketing. I use products for myself and judge them myself. I don’t rely on marketing.
