ZMF Verite Open
Nov 25, 2019 at 9:55 AM Post #3,616 of 9,512
Give the Verite some time for it to open up its lungs. Takes about 150 hours before it really settles in and the sound sig changes. You’ll notice a significant difference from when you received them to after burn in.
Thanks for the reply! I bought a gently used pair that has about 200 hours on it, so I figured it had already been burned in.
 
Nov 25, 2019 at 10:01 AM Post #3,617 of 9,512
Hi everyone! I just received my silkwood Verite open over the weekend and am looking forward to joining in on some of these discussions! I haven't listened to them long enough to be able to make any confident impressions, but my initial thoughts were very positive. They are noticeably lighter and do have a different sound that my teak Auteur, as I've read in my reviews. I listened to both using my Decware CSP2 OTL as well as my iFi iDSD Pro. The Auteur sounds wonderful and very balanced out of the CSP2, but for some reason, this was not a good of a pairing with the Verite. Treble seemed rolled off and distant, and I felt like something was lacking in the sound. Then I hooked up the Verite to the iDSD Pro and used the tube mode and wow, did the sound open up and I could hear what I was not hearing from the CSP2. I have to say I was a bit surprised by this, because I thought that the CSP2 would pair just as well with the Verite as it did with the Auteur. I realize that the Verite and Auteur have different sound signatures, but I was not expecting such a different response out of an OTL amp. Anyone else have a similar experience?
Congrats on your new headphones! Sorry had to edit my response after reading they supposedly had ~200hrs of use already. I've found the Verite to pair quite well with almost all amps I threw at it, aside from the ZDT Jr which I just didn't really care for in general. All amps I've used have had varied results with the Verite though. What pads are you using?
 
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Nov 25, 2019 at 11:14 AM Post #3,618 of 9,512
Congrats on your new headphones! Sorry had to edit my response after reading they supposedly had ~200hrs of use already. I've found the Verite to pair quite well with almost all amps I threw at it, aside from the ZDT Jr which I just didn't really care for in general. All amps I've used have had varied results with the Verite though. What pads are you using?

Hey, thanks for the follow-up reply. I've been using the Verite pads. I haven't tried the Universe pads yet but have heard that these produce a warmer and less linear sound. I knew that the headphones would probably sound different through different amps but was surprised at how different the Verite sounded on the CSP2 vs the amp section of the iFi iDSD Pro.
 
Nov 25, 2019 at 11:38 AM Post #3,619 of 9,512
Congrats on your new headphones! Sorry had to edit my response after reading they supposedly had ~200hrs of use already. I've found the Verite to pair quite well with almost all amps I threw at it, aside from the ZDT Jr which I just didn't really care for in general. All amps I've used have had varied results with the Verite though. What pads are you using?
Just to piggy-back off your comment - do you have any experience with the Pendant that you could share?
 
Nov 25, 2019 at 11:43 AM Post #3,620 of 9,512
Hey, thanks for the follow-up reply. I've been using the Verite pads. I haven't tried the Universe pads yet but have heard that these produce a warmer and less linear sound. I knew that the headphones would probably sound different through different amps but was surprised at how different the Verite sounded on the CSP2 vs the amp section of the iFi iDSD Pro.
Right on. Yea I use the the Verite lambskin almost exclusively. Whenever I switch to the Universe or Universe suede they don't stay on long. I've heard other good things about iFi iDSD Pro pairing, but yea very surprising on the Decware CSP2. Maybe it's your current tube roll?
I found the BHC+SB (with Raytheon 12au7, Tung Sol 5998 domino) pairing to be really good. I also enjoyed the Verite with Liquid Platinum + Bugle Boys, Mjolnir 2 + LISST, stock, 396A, and THX 887.

@RMarks271 only when I demo'd the VO + Pendant at CanJam. It sounded absolutely excellent, and resulted in me pursuing the Verite, but I had no point of reference at the time.
 
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Nov 25, 2019 at 12:33 PM Post #3,622 of 9,512
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Nov 25, 2019 at 12:34 PM Post #3,623 of 9,512
Loaner Verite open is in the house--along w/a loaner VC that's been quietly rearranging my ears & brain in the past week.

Haven't tried the VO, will will today or tomorrow. I have a feeling this is going to get even more interesting...
 
Nov 25, 2019 at 1:12 PM Post #3,625 of 9,512
Thank you for this. Killer track. This drum imaging on the VO V-lamb is some of the best I've heard. Got any more drum recommendations?

And yea Lambskin Verite pads all the way. I had just put on the Universe Suede pads and threw on Perfect Circle - Mer de Noms and I was really disappointed with the sound. No air to breath, congested, claustrophobic almost. Putting the Verite lambskins back on brought everything into the open and cleared up everything.

Nope that's what I got now.
Yeah the lambskin verite pads are awesome!, I have the lamb and suede universe pads and both are no match to the verite pads (to my taste).
 
Nov 25, 2019 at 1:25 PM Post #3,626 of 9,512
You've said the Auteur has a better defined outer-stage - does the Verite have good staging, even if not as good as the Auteur?

The staging on the Verite (with the lambskin verite pads) is excellent IMO.
Width is average (Ananda wide), the height is also average (a bit taller than the Elex) but the depth is crazy!! the deepest from a pair of headphones that I listened to (2 inches in front of my eyes and around one feet behind my head).
 
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Nov 25, 2019 at 1:42 PM Post #3,627 of 9,512
Thanks for the reply! I bought a gently used pair that has about 200 hours on it, so I figured it had already been burned in.

You may want to stay away from dark sounding amps or tubes with the Verite, I myself boost the treble with some EQ even with the verite lambskin pads with the THX788. So you may like a slightly bright combos with the Verite.
 
Nov 25, 2019 at 1:44 PM Post #3,628 of 9,512
You may want to stay away from dark sounding amps or tubes with the Verite, I myself boost the treble with some EQ even with the verite lambskin pads with the THX788. So you may like a slightly bright combos with the Verite.
That sounds like sound advice, particularly given my recent experience pairing the Verite with the CSP2. Funny, because the reviews seem to suggest that OTL tube amps are well suited for the Verite.
 
Nov 25, 2019 at 3:15 PM Post #3,629 of 9,512
I am very much enjoying the Verite out of the ifi Micro Black. The 3D switch on it seems to create a more ethereal presentation which fills the sound stage and seems to move some sounds up so that it does feel more like a 3D bubble around my head which is full of sound. With some of the tracks suggested on the previous page, it's over the top. It's at least very good out of all the amps I have, and the Hugo 2 especially. Waiting on a DarkVoice just to have an OTL to try until my Glenn OTL is ready. After only a week with the Verite, I'm becoming more impressed with them each day (which isn't burn in as mine are used).

Being still relatively new to the hobby, I'm always amazed how my first impression is often underwhelming until my brain adjusts to the sound and then begins to realize what the headphone is capable of. My first impression was that they have a similar overall sound to the Atticus (which I've only had 6 weeks and has been my main pair since then) with much more detail. I was a little disappointed at first that they didn't have a radically different sound. Now, however, the differences are becoming revealed and I'm loving both.
 
Nov 25, 2019 at 3:44 PM Post #3,630 of 9,512
That sounds like sound advice, particularly given my recent experience pairing the Verite with the CSP2. Funny, because the reviews seem to suggest that OTL tube amps are well suited for the Verite.

Mine sounded great driven by a Bottlehead Crack / Speedball. A bit on the warm side and I preferred the speed of the ZMF Pendant, but the BHC was certainly no slouch. I'm sure a Glenn OTL would be a nice match although I haven't heard one yet myself.
 

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