ZMF BOKEH - Closed Back (Semi-Portable)
Feb 18, 2024 at 10:51 PM Post #1,531 of 2,370
So, the M11 Plus is a very good player but with the Bokeh, the soundstage seems a bit muted - my Meze 109Pros are much more dynamic on the M11 Plus. As for the RU7, I still need more time but my impressions vary whether I am running it off my computer or my iPhone. Using the computer and the RU7 is much better than the iPhone and RU7 - could be power limitations of the iPhone but the two don't sound the same with the Bokeh (I think Wes who comments on this thread had a similar experience). I bought the RU7 to use with my iPhone so hopefully that will improve as it gets more playing time.

Reading through the RU7 thread, people recommend the ddhifi MFi07S cable which improves the connection with iPhones.
 
Feb 18, 2024 at 10:55 PM Post #1,532 of 2,370
So, the M11 Plus is a very good player but with the Bokeh, the soundstage seems a bit muted - my Meze 109Pros are much more dynamic on the M11 Plus. As for the RU7, I still need more time but my impressions vary whether I am running it off my computer or my iPhone. Using the computer and the RU7 is much better than the iPhone and RU7 - could be power limitations of the iPhone but the two don't sound the same with the Bokeh (I think Wes who comments on this thread had a similar experience). I bought the RU7 to use with my iPhone so hopefully that will improve as it gets more playing time.

I have the M11 Plus as my back up DAP, and I agree the soundstage width and depth is more intimate. It's also a little underpowered compared to other DAPs I've owned in $700 price range. On my RS6 low gain at 70 out of 100 on the volume dial and you get plenty of soundstage, mids and bass you need. On the M11 you need to pump it up to high gain 75 out of 120 on the volume dial to get that bass response that the Bokeh is capable of. The disadvantage of the RS6 is that's its twice the price of the M11 plus.

I think the M11 punches above its price point when it comes to detail and resolution, and Fiio knows how to implement THX tech better than anyone except for Benchmark. You can also get it used on EBay for $500 so even a better deal.
 
Feb 18, 2024 at 11:16 PM Post #1,533 of 2,370
So, the M11 Plus is a very good player but with the Bokeh, the soundstage seems a bit muted - my Meze 109Pros are much more dynamic on the M11 Plus. As for the RU7, I still need more time but my impressions vary whether I am running it off my computer or my iPhone. Using the computer and the RU7 is much better than the iPhone and RU7 - could be power limitations of the iPhone but the two don't sound the same with the Bokeh (I think Wes who comments on this thread had a similar experience). I bought the RU7 to use with my iPhone so hopefully that will improve as it gets more playing time.

Thank you. This is very useful to me!
 
Feb 18, 2024 at 11:25 PM Post #1,534 of 2,370
Reading through the RU7 thread, people recommend the ddhifi MFi07S cable which improves the connection with iPhones.
I have ordered one and waiting on its arrival
 
Feb 19, 2024 at 12:07 AM Post #1,535 of 2,370
Reading through the RU7 thread, people recommend the ddhifi MFi07S cable which improves the connection with iPhones.
Actually, if you have an iPhone 15 then order DDHIFI TC07S OTG HIFI CABLE which is USB-C to USC-C where the MFi07s is USB-C to Lightening
 
Feb 19, 2024 at 12:10 AM Post #1,536 of 2,370
Actually, if you have an iPhone 15 then order DDHIFI TC07S OTG HIFI CABLE which is USB-C to USC-C where the MFi07s is USB-C to Lightening
And it doubles for a computer cable...
 
Feb 19, 2024 at 12:14 AM Post #1,537 of 2,370
Feb 19, 2024 at 12:15 AM Post #1,538 of 2,370
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Feb 19, 2024 at 12:20 AM Post #1,539 of 2,370
RU6 is pretty great pairing too. With the Bokeh there's a very deep stage that I enjoy. RU7 is another level of detail that isn't as deep but taller.
 
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Feb 19, 2024 at 12:26 AM Post #1,540 of 2,370
Feb 19, 2024 at 12:32 AM Post #1,541 of 2,370
I meant RU7 to computer cable, sorry.
Yes, sorry about that. That is primarily where Wes says that he is getting the best sound for the Bokeh and RU7 via his Mac computer and this cable.
 
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Feb 19, 2024 at 2:17 AM Post #1,542 of 2,370
harvested for a particular batch from trees that are close to 200 years old…
Makes me curious on the vintage of the particular sets of lumber Zach used for the Olivewood AC. Not sure he would know the answer to that, though.

Some olive trees can reach over a millennia in age!

Love that every ZMF has an organic history.
 
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Feb 19, 2024 at 6:15 AM Post #1,543 of 2,370
I have the M11 Plus as my back up DAP, and I agree the soundstage width and depth is more intimate. It's also a little underpowered compared to other DAPs I've owned in $700 price range. On my RS6 low gain at 70 out of 100 on the volume dial and you get plenty of soundstage, mids and bass you need. On the M11 you need to pump it up to high gain 75 out of 120 on the volume dial to get that bass response that the Bokeh is capable of. The disadvantage of the RS6 is that's its twice the price of the M11 plus.

I think the M11 punches above its price point when it comes to detail and resolution, and Fiio knows how to implement THX tech better than anyone except for Benchmark. You can also get it used on EBay for $500 so even a better deal.

Was that balanced or single-ended?

If single-ended, I'd recommend you give a shot to the Bokeh balanced via a DAP, single-ended via an desktop amp.

Especially given the good price and looks of ZMF's 4.4 cable.
 
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Feb 19, 2024 at 11:02 AM Post #1,544 of 2,370
Was that balanced or single-ended?

If single-ended, I'd recommend you give a shot to the Bokeh balanced via a DAP, single-ended via an desktop amp.

Especially given the good price and looks of ZMF's 4.4 cable.
On both the M11 and the RS6 I run 4.4.

I run XLR on my desktop setup, and for the Bokeh I use my heart audio cable system. It allows me to switch from the DAP to my desktop without having to constantly pull and switch cables on the headphones to move from 4.4 to XLR.

I personally don't like using 4.4 on my desktop hardware.
 
Feb 19, 2024 at 11:09 AM Post #1,545 of 2,370
Reading through the RU7 thread, people recommend the ddhifi MFi07S cable which improves the connection with iPhones.

I have the GUCraftsman one I got off Amazon, works like a charm
 

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