[fabien32]

low sale

The reason for that is because the lack of the USB dac

 

[FTLights]

Doesnt the Zishan DSD have USB dac? could be wrong though

 

[fabien32]

Doesnt the Zishan DSD have USB dac? could be wrong though

It does, the T1 doesn't

 

[DBaldock9]

Doesnt the Zishan DSD have USB dac? could be wrong though

Yes, with only the "built-in" Win10 drivers on the PC at work (where I don't have permissions to install drivers), I use my Zishan DSD (AK4497) as a USB DAC (16-Bit / 48-KHz) all the time.
I also use my Walnut F2, and my Radsone ES100 as USB DACs on the same PC.

 

[FTLights]

Its great to hear your input DBaldock9 ! Im totally new to all these terms, but Im searching for an all in one dac for laptop, and on the go player. Aaalot of options and things to get into! ha

 

[FTLights]

Yes, with only the "built-in" Win10 drivers on the PC at work (where I don't have permissions to install drivers), I use my Zishan DSD (AK4497) as a USB DAC (16-Bit / 48-KHz) all the time.
I also use my Walnut F2, and my Radsone ES100 as USB DACs on the same PC.

Does This mean that it can charge at the same time though? Through the computer possibly?

 

[DBaldock9]

Does This mean that it can charge at the same time though? Through the computer possibly?

Yes, the DSD will charge while operating as a USB DAC (as long as the USB cable has the +5V line in it).
The F2 has separate Data and Charge micro-USB jacks - so you have the option of operating on the battery, or charging it.

 

[FTLights]

Yes, the DSD will charge while operating as a USB DAC (as long as the USB cable has the +5V line in it).
The F2 has separate Data and Charge micro-USB jacks - so you have the option of operating on the battery, or charging it.

That made it so easy for me, valuable knowledge wise man, Thank you .)

 

[DBaldock9]

Its great to hear your input DBaldock9 ! Im totally new to all these terms, but Im searching for an all in one dac for laptop, and on the go player. Aaalot of options and things to get into! ha

Generally speaking, the Zishan DAPs that I've seen, have better DAC chips in them, than the Walnut DAPs.
Even the simple DAC chips in the Walnut devices support operation as a 16-Bit / 48-KHz USB DAC, but most of them don't support higher resolution audio tracks.

I know that the Zishan DSD supports multiple file formats, up to at least 192-KHz sample rates, but maybe only at 16-Bit resolution (rather than 24-Bit, or 32-Bit).
It has one socketed op-amp which (indirectly) drives the Single-Ended output.
But if you want to op-amp roll the Balanced Output, it requires unsoldering / soldering surface-mount SOIC-8 devices.

The Walnut F2 supports MP3 & WAV file formats, at 16-Bit, and either 44.1-KHz or 48-KHz.

The T1 probably supports a similar set of file types and resolutions as the DSD.
They both have Balanced & Single-Ended outputs - but neither has very much internal space for capacitor or op-amp rolling.

 

[FTLights]

Generally speaking, the Zishan DAPs that I've seen, have better DAC chips in them, than the Walnut DAPs.
Even the simple DAC chips in the Walnut devices support operation as a 16-Bit / 48-KHz USB DAC, but most of them don't support higher resolution audio tracks.

I know that the Zishan DSD supports multiple file formats, up to at least 192-KHz sample rates, but maybe only at 16-Bit resolution (rather than 24-Bit, or 32-Bit).
It has one socketed op-amp which (indirectly) drives the Single-Ended output.
But if you want to op-amp roll the Balanced Output, it requires unsoldering / soldering surface-mount SOIC-8 devices.

The Walnut F2 supports MP3 & WAV file formats, at 16-Bit, and either 44.1-KHz or 48-KHz.

The T1 probably supports a similar set of file types and resolutions as the DSD.
They both have Balanced & Single-Ended outputs - but neither has very much internal space for capacitor or op-amp rolling.

No, but thats great! Ill start of in this price range - So the DSD seems a fair choice? Since I have no real insight.. yet.

 

[endia]

Generally speaking, the Zishan DAPs that I've seen, have better DAC chips in them, than the Walnut DAPs.
Even the simple DAC chips in the Walnut devices support operation as a 16-Bit / 48-KHz USB DAC, but most of them don't support higher resolution audio tracks.

I know that the Zishan DSD supports multiple file formats, up to at least 192-KHz sample rates, but maybe only at 16-Bit resolution (rather than 24-Bit, or 32-Bit).
It has one socketed op-amp which (indirectly) drives the Single-Ended output.
But if you want to op-amp roll the Balanced Output, it requires unsoldering / soldering surface-mount SOIC-8 devices.

The Walnut F2 supports MP3 & WAV file formats, at 16-Bit, and either 44.1-KHz or 48-KHz.

The T1 probably supports a similar set of file types and resolutions as the DSD.
They both have Balanced & Single-Ended outputs - but neither has very much internal space for capacitor or op-amp rolling.

zishan dsd supports 32 bit pcm and dsd256 as far as I know..

 

[FTLights]

Good guys give me your knowledge!!
What headphones/ iems do you use? Interested

 

[Johnciaccio]

It looks like mostly the same basic components minus extra switches and different screen size so they should support the same formats. The processor converts the formats and sends the stream to the dac.

Mostly want it for my Monolith m560 (planar) and HD 6xx. Shour Tape IEM, Tin T4, AS10

 

[JunMurata]

ZiShan T1
New audio player from ZiShan, featuring;

- PCM playback up to 32bit/768kHz
- Native DSD 256
- Changeable DAC Module (AK4493EQ*2 by default)
- Rollable Low-Pass Filter*2 (LM4562*2 or NE5532*2 by default)
- OP275 gain (Soldered)
- Dual crystal oscillator
- Allwinner© F1C100s CPU (900MHz, 40nm)
- Altera Max II CPLD
- 3.5mm power output (PO)
- 2.5mm balance output (BL), no Line Out port*
- 2.2" resistive touchscreen display
- 2 different firmwares, ZiShan official and Rockbox firmware^ (ZiShan official firmware by default)
- 180 EQ preset, custom equalizer available
- Sound filter, DSD frequency cutoff and sound quality options are available
- Sleep timer
- Type-C USB port
- USB DAC support (Dedicated USB DAC driver with firmware 0.1 or above required)¹
- 2TB max. SD Card expansion (FAT32 required)
- 3.8V 2850mAh
And...
- Pocketable size at 75mm x 50mm x 20mm

^Rockbox firmware is still unstable for now. ZiShan still working on the development of the rockbox firmware. Installing it might brick your T1. So be really careful. If you have any trouble with it, post it on the forum.

Pics:
~ Front


~ Side


~ 360 view


~ Playback support


~ Block diagram


~ Inside


~ About T1


~ User interface


~ Quick start guide


~ Sound setting


(Open links down below to see more information.)

Links:
∆ You can get T1 here on AE:
AK4493EQ*2:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000040339663.html
AK4497EQ:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000068532540.html
AK4490EQ (new):
https://h5.aliexpress.com/item/4000106843382.html
∆ ZiShan site:
http://zishan.ru/
∆ Firmware (updated)¹: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1UFD3fSRg0AQNQitsoj7iPaDu335uN8vb?usp=sharing

Updates:
¶ T1 doesn't yet support USB portable media transfer, so you must use SD card to transfer everything.
¶ Real photo: https://www.head-fi.org/threads/zishan-t1-hi-fi-player-thread.911795/#post-15091753
¶ T1 update manual (English version): https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VB...KpjuHoMmpoJMigGft8bDl6-k5wR/view?usp=drivesdk
¶ Now support for USB DAC on firmware 0.1 or above¹
¶ T1 LPF issue: https://www.head-fi.org/threads/zishan-t1-hi-fi-player-thread.911795/page-4#post-15106821
¶ New DAC modules: https://www.head-fi.org/threads/zishan-t1-hi-fi-player-thread.911795/page-5#post-15115241
¶ *Line out (line signal) can be tapped from the 2.5mm balance output
¶ My personal review on the T1: https://www.head-fi.org/showcase/zishan-t1-hifi-player.23935/reviews#review-22612

NOTE:
¹ can be changed in the future
This thread is created for everyone and aimed at sharing opinions, reviews, mods, and and other stuff about the ZiShan T1. Please keep it peace, friendly and an easy-to-read discussion thread. Disagree about one's opinion and reviews is okay, but if more than that, it's intolerant (and your account might got banned). So let's use this thread as best as possible. Thank you

God bless.

 

[JunMurata]

Hi, I installed new Rockbox firmwares to my Zishan T1.

rockbox_Zishan_ENG_T1_evge-tlt.zip -> Good working.

rockbox_Zishan_ENG_T1_evge-tlt_v3.zip -> No Good working, music suddenly stop.

Does anyone has good idea?

Now, I use rockbox_Zishan_ENG_T1_evge-tlt.zip.

Thanks,