[milkpowder]

I'm really interested in getting the single-ended Black Dragon recable!

 

[darkninja67]

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Originally Posted by milkpowder I'm really interested in getting the single-ended Black Dragon recable!

Do it. I can just imagine what it would sound like. Bass would be incredible I bet.

 

[A.Thorsen]

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Originally Posted by darkninja67 Do it. I can just imagine what it would sound like. Bass would be incredible I bet.

For some reason, your post made me think of this:

You all know how Headroom has all those nice sound charts for headphones? I wish we could see some of those done with "before and afters" in terms of recabling.

You'd see what pair of headphones it was, what kind of cable was used, how much of it, etc.

I wish something like that could be done.

Something concrete like that could go a long ways to settling the "Good vs. recabling is nothing but placebo" arguments that are out there.

 

[swmtnbiker]

Does he recable through the headband to the floating cup side? If not I'd think that would be an issue.

 

[PeeeMeS]

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Originally Posted by A.Thorsen For some reason, your post made me think of this: You all know how Headroom has all those nice sound charts for headphones? I wish we could see some of those done with "before and afters" in terms of recabling. You'd see what pair of headphones it was, what kind of cable was used, how much of it, etc. I wish something like that could be done. Something concrete like that could go a long ways to settling the "Good vs. recabling is nothing but placebo" arguments that are out there.

This has already been done

 

[A.Thorsen]

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Originally Posted by PeeeMeS This has already been done

Probably before my time here. Link or directions please?

 

[Beauregard]

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Originally Posted by PeeeMeS This has already been done

References, please? I seem to recall some talk about the folks at HeadRoom doing some measurements with different cables but I don't remember seeing the results.

 

[A.Thorsen]

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Originally Posted by PeeMees This has already been done

When you get a chance... we'd love to see a link or something to some of this.

 

[PeeeMeS]

I *really* did not want to post any evidence without getting a really really really good list...


Here are some examples:
Eric343 used a Time Domain Reflectometer to test cables

Link comparing DIY cables
http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/...rCablesp1.html

BTW, I am not supporting any results or testing methodology. This issue is way to complicated for me to discuss without devoting a long time on it.
I'm purely going to dump information in this post: (true/false.. you decide)

Electrical conductivity

Silver: 0.630 10^6/cm-Ohm / 105.7% that of Copper
Copper: 0.596 10^6/cm-Ohm
Gold: 0.452 10^6/cm-Ohm / 75.8% that of Copper
Rhodium: 0.211 10^6/cm-Ohm / 35.4% that of Copper
Nickel: 0.143 10^6/cm-Ohm / 24% that of Copper
Brass: 0.137 10^6/cm-Ohm / 23% that of Copper
Tin: 0.092 10^6/cm-Ohm / 15.4% that of Copper
Carbon: 0.00061 10^6/cm-Ohm / 0.102% that of Copper


http://www6.head-fi.org/forums/showp...&postcount=107

Good threads:
http://www6.head-fi.org/forums/showthread.php?t=92548
http://www6.head-fi.org/forums/showthread.php?t=97381
http://www6.head-fi.org/forums/showthread.php?t=152637
http://www6.head-fi.org/forums/showthread.php?t=70599


Actually I don't think I'm going to continue searching
Taking up too much of my time, sorry

Pretend I flamed you guys and I didn't say anything of value

Nothing to see here

 

[Beauregard]

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Originally Posted by PeeeMeS I *really* did not want to post any evidence without getting a really really really good list...

Ahh... there was a misunderstanding. I thought you were referring specifically to measurements of headphones with different cables as was mentioned in the post you responded to. I agree... no need to get into the general cable hoohah at this point.

But it would be really interesting if HeadRoom or someone could provide comparative data to see how much the perceived sonic differences in headphone cables might be correlated with the standard output measurements.

Best,
Beau

 

[A.Thorsen]

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Originally Posted by PeeeMeS I *really* did not want to post any evidence without getting a really really really good list...

Much appreciated!

 

[PeeeMeS]

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Originally Posted by Beauregard Ahh... there was a misunderstanding. I thought you were referring specifically to measurements of headphones with different cables as was mentioned in the post you responded to. I agree... no need to get into the general cable hoohah at this point. But it would be really interesting if HeadRoom or someone could provide comparative data to see how much the perceived sonic differences in headphone cables might be correlated with the standard output measurements. Best, Beau

I'm 100% positive I have seen graphs for this on head-fi(not by headroom though) I just can't find them at the moment

 

[rodbac]

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Originally Posted by PeeeMeS I'm 100% positive I have seen graphs for this on head-fi(not by headroom though) I just can't find them at the moment

If these were done, I hope the person doing them knew enough to post multiple runs of the same phone/cable combination.

 

[PeeeMeS]

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Originally Posted by rodbac If these were done, I hope the person doing them knew enough to post multiple runs of the same phone/cable combination.

Can't remember if they did or didn't

But I'm pretty sure the evidence showed that any differences was below threshold of hearing. Can't remember if there were any significant differences that we can't hear though.

And the big kicker: I can't remember what kind of graph it was.