Wolfson DAC confirmed for Galaxy S3!
post-8525854
Post #467 of 947

bobbydavy

New Head-Fier
Joined
Jul 12, 2012
Messages
5
Reaction score
10
Joined
Jul 12, 2012
Posts
5
Likes
10
Hope this doesn't seem off the subject but consideing that you can use another DAC for the GSIII would this be possible for the HTC One X? I have heard that the DAC for the HTC One X is pretty crappy... I was thinking of a DAC (and AMP) such as the Fiio E7 or E17 for this devise to go with the One X to impove the sound quality. 
 
I have just got a One X and have also just purchased a Fiio E11 - so wondering if I should return the E11 and go with something with a DAC in it too...
 
Hopefully im not too confused as just starting out here!

 
     Share This Post       
post-8526245
Post #468 of 947

DanBa

Headphoneus Supremus
Joined
Nov 12, 2009
Messages
1,721
Reaction score
262
Joined
Nov 12, 2009
Posts
1,721
Likes
262
As far as I know, the standard USB audio out is not enabled on HTC One X.
The standard USB audio out feature allows to bypass the internal DAC (and the internal amp) of the HTC One X, so that the HTC One X can output its digital audio streams to external DAC like FiiO E7, E11, E17.
 
You should ask HTC for that.
 
One of the other ways to let Google and HTC know that is to vote for the Google issue "Enable (standard) USB audio":
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=24614&sort=-stars&colspec=ID%20Type%20Status%20Owner%20Summary%20Stars 
 
     Share This Post       
post-8526262
Post #469 of 947

NZtechfreak

Headphoneus Supremus
Joined
Jan 19, 2012
Messages
3,236
Reaction score
615
Joined
Jan 19, 2012
Posts
3,236
Likes
615
Danba is correct. The HTC One X cannot do USB audio at all. There are custom kernels that will allow some USB OTG functions (which it lacks on stock software), but none that can do USB audio.
 
     Share This Post       
post-8526400
Post #470 of 947

bobbydavy

New Head-Fier
Joined
Jul 12, 2012
Messages
5
Reaction score
10
Joined
Jul 12, 2012
Posts
5
Likes
10
Thanks guys - good to know. In your opinon would it still be worth getting the external amp then (Fiio E11)? If all its adding is extra volume, and its not improving the sound due to a bad signal, then I think it might be a waste... 
 
Also, I found that Google post this morning and voted so at least doing my bit there...

 
     Share This Post       
post-8526430
Post #471 of 947

derbigpr

Headphoneus Supremus
Joined
Jan 19, 2011
Messages
1,623
Reaction score
269
Joined
Jan 19, 2011
Posts
1,623
Likes
269
Quote:
Thanks guys - good to know. In your opinon would it still be worth getting the external amp then (Fiio E11)? If all its adding is extra volume, and its not improving the sound due to a bad signal, then I think it might be a waste... 
 
Also, I found that Google post this morning and voted so at least doing my bit there...
 
EDIT:  I just realized you're talking about the HTC. In that case its possible that signal is bad.
 
That is not true, anyone who says that is clearly talking without ever trying it on their own.  If you connect your headphones directly to a smartphone with a good DAC, you will be getting a pure signal from the DAC, but the amplifier in smartphone will be so weak that it wont be able to run the headphones properly, therefore that GOOD signal from DAC will sound bad, because drivers in headphones will not have efficient power fed to them in order to make full use of those signals. BUT, when you use an amp, then internal amp in phone doesn't have to power the headphones, all it does is it acts like a preamp, sort of, and just sends trough a signal from the DAC.  That way, your external amp receives a clean signal, just as it would from a normal standalone DAC or soundcard.
 
I still can't believe how good my Galaxy S1 sounds when used in pair with an amp, its just so crisp, clean, sound stage is very big and sound is very airy, it sounds like there's a lot of space between sounds. Really good stuff.  Wouldn't mind if my desktop setup sounded that way.
 
     Share This Post       
post-8526472
Post #472 of 947

Llloyd

500+ Head-Fier
Joined
Nov 18, 2011
Messages
769
Reaction score
49
Joined
Nov 18, 2011
Posts
769
Likes
49
So does the SGS3 have a line out?  I can't really read through all the pages.  Seems like there's no need for an aftermarket dac if the wolfson really is that great.  I'd still like to have an aftermarket amp.  How many mw output does the hp jack have?  I'm sure it's like 32/16 ohm output yea?
 
     Share This Post       
post-8526551
Post #473 of 947

bobbydavy

New Head-Fier
Joined
Jul 12, 2012
Messages
5
Reaction score
10
Joined
Jul 12, 2012
Posts
5
Likes
10
Quote:
 
EDIT:  I just realized you're talking about the HTC. In that case its possible that signal is bad.
 
That is not true, anyone who says that is clearly talking without ever trying it on their own.  If you connect your headphones directly to a smartphone with a good DAC, you will be getting a pure signal from the DAC, but the amplifier in smartphone will be so weak that it wont be able to run the headphones properly, therefore that GOOD signal from DAC will sound bad, because drivers in headphones will not have efficient power fed to them in order to make full use of those signals. BUT, when you use an amp, then internal amp in phone doesn't have to power the headphones, all it does is it acts like a preamp, sort of, and just sends trough a signal from the DAC.  That way, your external amp receives a clean signal, just as it would from a normal standalone DAC or soundcard.
 
I still can't believe how good my Galaxy S1 sounds when used in pair with an amp, its just so crisp, clean, sound stage is very big and sound is very airy, it sounds like there's a lot of space between sounds. Really good stuff.  Wouldn't mind if my desktop setup sounded that way.
I dont think/hope its THAT bad... Going to give the amp a go and hopefullly get the same experience you got from your set up you described.
 
Thanks for the pearls of wisdom!  
 
     Share This Post       
post-8527411
Post #474 of 947

WakiDabeast

500+ Head-Fier
Joined
Feb 13, 2011
Messages
784
Reaction score
12
Joined
Feb 13, 2011
Posts
784
Likes
12
Quote:
There are various hacks already out if your rooted...many are incorporated into kernels like Siyah, it can make volume output ridiculously loud, it has DAC direct feature too! 
 
Voodoo pre release is apparently on the horizon though so if your not rooted already then just wait for that IMO 
do you have to be rooted for voodoo? That's probably a stupid question, but I don't know ^^
 
     Share This Post       
post-8529142
Post #475 of 947

nnotis

500+ Head-Fier
Joined
Jun 22, 2007
Messages
515
Reaction score
35
Joined
Jun 22, 2007
Posts
515
Likes
35
I just got an I9300 S3 last night.  I'm happy to report that the iBasso D12 works via USB.  I'm very sad to report that I can't get my Pico to.  I know that someone several pages back got it to work, so I'm hoping it's a matter of getting the right cable adapter.
 
The stock headphone jack is pretty disappointing.  I expected a flat soundstage.  But there's a pretty loud noise floor too.  The iPhone 4S sounds considerably better.  Perhaps Supercurio can remedy this to some extent.  Regardless, a good USB DAC will play in a different league to ANY stock jack.  Getting at least one of them to work on the S3 is a dream come true.
 
     Share This Post       
post-8534856
Post #476 of 947

ShadowMax

New Head-Fier
Joined
Oct 17, 2011
Messages
17
Reaction score
10
Joined
Oct 17, 2011
Posts
17
Likes
10
Not sure if anyone has tested the HRT Music Streamer II with the S3 yet, but it works for me via USB.
 

 
     Share This Post       
post-8534949
Post #477 of 947

analogue 3

100+ Head-Fier
Joined
Jan 3, 2005
Messages
123
Reaction score
12
Joined
Jan 3, 2005
Posts
123
Likes
12
Quote:
I just got an I9300 S3 last night.  I'm happy to report that the iBasso D12 works via USB.  I'm very sad to report that I can't get my Pico to.  I know that someone several pages back got it to work, so I'm hoping it's a matter of getting the right cable adapter.
 
The stock headphone jack is pretty disappointing.  I expected a flat soundstage.  But there's a pretty loud noise floor too.  The iPhone 4S sounds considerably better.  Perhaps Supercurio can remedy this to some extent.  Regardless, a good USB DAC will play in a different league to ANY stock jack.  Getting at least one of them to work on the S3 is a dream come true.
 
Thanks for the info. I've been waiting to hear if the D12 is compatible with the iBasso. Partly due to the D12 being an attractive piece of kit and partly since I hope it's indicative of compatibility with other iBasso DACs. Just out of interest, how does the D12 compare to the Pico? I only found one thread online comparing the 2 and that person said that he sees the 2 as being a lateral move, rather than one being an upgrade over the other.
 
     Share This Post       
post-8535061
Post #478 of 947

ficklecycler

New Head-Fier
Joined
Jan 31, 2011
Messages
16
Reaction score
11
Joined
Jan 31, 2011
Posts
16
Likes
11
Quote:
So does the SGS3 have a line out?  I can't really read through all the pages.  Seems like there's no need for an aftermarket dac if the wolfson really is that great.  I'd still like to have an aftermarket amp.  How many mw output does the hp jack have?  I'm sure it's like 32/16 ohm output yea?

No as far as I can tell it doesn't have a true line out. I did notice though that the official Samsung dock has a port that says line out on it. Its possible that the dock can get the phone to output in that mode.
 
check it out...
 
     Share This Post       
post-8535080
Post #479 of 947

analogue 3

100+ Head-Fier
Joined
Jan 3, 2005
Messages
123
Reaction score
12
Joined
Jan 3, 2005
Posts
123
Likes
12
I don't suppose anyone can make an educated guess about when the S3 64gb model would see a price drop? e.g. would something like an updated Google Nexus phone releasing in Autumn 2012 effect the price of the S3? Or would the S3 only see a price drop when the S4 is announced (much as the S2 did when the S3 was released)? I wasn't really looking at phones when the current nexus was released so don't know if it made any difference to the price of the S2 in Autumn 2011.
 
Thanks
 
     Share This Post       
post-8535152
Post #480 of 947

Llloyd

500+ Head-Fier
Joined
Nov 18, 2011
Messages
769
Reaction score
49
Joined
Nov 18, 2011
Posts
769
Likes
49
So as far as mobile DACs go, what's the best confirmed working DAC at the moment?  The mobile one that I even know of is the E7.  It's a shame the e17 doesn't work.
 
     Share This Post       

Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Users: 0, Guests: 1)

Top