[TheMaestro335]

Please excuse my ignorance! I read the other forums!

 

[cifani090]

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Please excuse my ignorance! I read the other forums!

Learn to edit your posts, and stop trying to get your post count up with 3 non-sense postings.
 

 

[TheMaestro335]

 
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Learn to edit your posts, and stop trying to get your post count up with 3 non-sense postings.
 

Apology wasn't good enough! You think I care how many posts I have?

 

 

[cifani090]

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Apology wasn't good enough! You think I care how many posts I have?

Sorry if i was hard, just go to the clip and edit them. Thanks
 
 

 

[TheMaestro335]

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Sorry if i was hard, just go to the clip and edit them. Thanks
 
 

No Problem Thank You.

 
 

 

[AyeVeeN]

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I think it's hard to beat a Rockboxed Clip+. Perhaps the original firmware isn't very good, but I think the sound on the rockboxed dap is as good as the iPod nano (3rd gen), Touch (2nd gen), iAudio 9 from Cowon, and nearly as good as the rocknboxed iRiver H1XX . (And yes, I do have all of these daps.)

The main disadvantage is the tiny, tiny screen.

If you say that, then I believe the EnV Touch would be a great player (though it's really a phone, and its library management is pretty bad in my opinion). My iPod Nano 3G sounds tinny compared to my Touch for some reason. Waiting for my LoD though for my iPod.

 

[Louis8ball]

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[Xymordos]

I still like my A844 over the iTouch by a large margin. The Sony have a massive soundstage (and epically colored sound, but hey! it sounds amazing), when the iPod sounds very bland. 
 
I know quite a few people would prefer S series over A series of Sony because they say that the S Master only add colors and effects to sound, and not quality.

 

[ZV3]

I have the Clip +, Fuze + and the Cowon D2 and the Sflo2 thoroughly beats them all. The Fuze with the LO sounds great, but the Sflo just has that something extra, the clarity is really hard to beat and it has a very hot LO!
I could care less about 10hour battery life, I only listen to music for a couple hours at the most in one sitting so the battery actually last forever to me! The Slfo2 has a very nice sound stage and the flat eq setting sounds the
best to me, but if you must tweak, the eq is nothing to be ashamed of and when you find a good setting, it's best to set it and forget it! The Sflo2 has the power, clarity and hot LO to beat most every player on the market and
it's quirks don't really bother me at all!
 
 

 

[Inks]

I'll say that the S:flo is the best DAP I've heard to date as well. Having tried the X, J3, Hifiman 601/602 and Iphone 4 and Clip+. Runner up will be the IP4. 

 

[JuliusL]

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They do not have the same internals....but I don't know how the Fuze+ sounds.

Well I have both the clip+ and the fuze.
Straight from the HO they sound both the same BUT fuze with LOD sounds much better.
Much better = improved detail depth of soundstage and the tonality is more musical
 
I would say fuze + lod sounds way better I would rather use this combo with amp than just clip+ alone.
Yes the fuze + amp is bigger and maybe not that portable as the clip+ alone or with an amp but the sound of fuze lod + amp is really better.
The difference is 25-30% between clip+ with or without amp and the fuze lod + amp.
 
I am using yuin pk1 with both.
 
EDIT: I have original fuze v1 not the fuze+
 

 

[proedros]

so the sflo2 is the best BUT it does not support gapless (and this is a HUGE dealbreaker)

Is there a better sounding DAP than the cowon J3 ?

(at the same price range money-wise that is)

 

[FlatNine]

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Can somebody share Inks's opinion?
 
I am listening to a Touch 3G, but i find it quite bad. I hope the Cowons are (alot) clearer and have bigger soundstage. 
Is there any way you can actually test a Cowon in a store?

 Here was my experience with the D2+. (I am not sure about the J3 though.)
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/534521/returned-my-d2
 

 

[Inks]

so the sflo2 is the best BUT it does not support gapless (and this is a HUGE dealbreaker)

Is there a better sounding DAP than the cowon J3 ?

(at the same price range money-wise that is)

Plenty. IP4, 3GS, Ipod Classic 7g, Fuze+, Fuze, X7, Gogear Vibe and Clip+. 
 

 

[TheDreamthinker]

Oh Head-Fi, why do you always need to make decisions hard on me?
 
Cowon "D3+", Telcast T51, iPod Touch.......