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My horse died cuz I broke its back after trying to ride it with my new speakers.
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hehe; sorry for the cliche. sheeshe, your a little high maintenance, there's a lot to reply to in this post
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| I wasn't trying to attack any one person with that thread, its just a warning before the thread goes off on the deep end. |
yeah I realize that man, but please; just because you want some quality information and you want it now; dont underestimate people's ability to sus out what is meaningful and what isnt. sure every statement has a potential effect, but anyone who rushes off and buys an IEM because of a baseless comment deserves anything they get. sorry but thats how I feel about it; people will never post 100% backed up and measured comments in a thread, especially so early on, where there are so few actual owners. so you just have to use your brain and if you arent willing to just blow the money and bite the bullet before there is plenty of information on the subject, then just relax and wait for it, it'll come.
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| I agree that you can't get rid of YMMV, but I dont get why people have to qualify their statements with YMMV, just own up to what you say. Plus if you do direct comparisons, YMMV doesn't really apply much since we know where the reviewer/response is coming from. I can say that "the UM3x has the most liquid midrange" all I want, but everyone here would more than likely ask me how does it compare to the SE530's midrange. If I've never heard the se530's, would you trust my assessment of the UM3x? Would my assessment be valid/useful in any way? No. And what if I were to say: |
well if I was already an owner of one or a couple of great IEMs and wanted to know if UM3X was an upgrade..no. but that doesnt mean that you can tell people who dont have all this experience with gear that their comments here are meaningless and they should keep it to themselves (not saying you said that, but it certainly sounds like you are inferring it)
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The UM3X has the best midrange I've ever heard and the highs aren't too peaky or rolled off, they're just right. The bass is nice and round, it hits you with a nice deep boom but isn't soo powerful that its muddy. The vocals are amazing, they aren't in your face but they are there. But thats what I got from my initial impression. Since I got surgery on my ears a few months back, you guys may hear something different.
Now would you take ANY of that as usable? Well some people might. Its misleading. And my point is those kinds of statements should be stopped. |
well sure; you know what I would do?? ignore it, simple as that mate; you have the ability to discern what is useful to you and what isnt.....use it. what are you going to suggest; that you be designated thread moderator and decide what content is worthy and what isnt?? :shakes head:
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| In terms of adding more to the thread, yeah I pop in once and a while to read up on comments that compare the um3x to the se530's (probably the main reason I focus on spyro's comments because he's dealt primarily with the se530's -unfortunately its also the main reason why I may have inadvertently singled him out in the last post). I mean what do you want me to do, just ask questions like .. Ohh how does the UM3x soundstage compare to the AtrioM5 or IE6? |
nah, say nothing, if you are just going to pop in and antagonize people because you are impatient to have the info you need to justify buying these, then just leave it out altogether if others evaluations dont meet your lofty standards, then just bite the bullet and buy the IEMs and write some yourself. you forget, people dont get paid to write here, its just chatting about a product some info is useful, some is dross, some is mindless ramblings. use your powers of observation to work out which is which.
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| Qusp, I'm also waiting for your impressions once you get your pair, and I'm hoping that you will include comparisons and not statements of fact. Its not like I'm lurking this thread, though it may seem like it since I pop up every few pages or so. But the thing is I wait to make comments until the topic moves from direct impressions of the UM3x to something I can add to. I obv can't add to the current discussion of the Actual UM3x but I think I can add to the discussion of what the "X" stands for . And the recent problem of bold, unsupported claims. Plus my post is I think timed with the recent couple of posts questioning the FOTMness of the current thread. I would like to think that when you question the FOTM, that you should request direct comparisons -which is what I did. |
well all I can promise is that i'l write a measured response using the equipment i've got on hand, which is pretty decent. I might also do so with the HP out of my iphone 3G for a baseline that more people might relate too, but i'll likely be using UM56 tips, because I just dont like other tips since I have them (thats if they stay on, the holes are getting a bit large from using on SE530 and they were damaged in an incident that I wont go into related to where I got them they weret staying on anything in summer, but now its colder I guess the rubber is harder and i'm getting some joy lately) i'll be able to compare directly to SE530; which is actually the IEM i've been using the most lately as my W3 needed to be RMAd and was playing up for a little while before that, so my memory of the W3 for comparison might not be too flash. most of the impressions will be done with iriver->D10->Lisa III>UM3X with UM56 so if they dont sound good like that; we've got issues
i'll also do some with my DIYMOD with D10/lisa/larocco Diablo. maybe with and without VCAP, depends on how into the review I am and how distracted I am with the amazing toons
when a new and excellent product is released; you really just have to accept that there will be some FOTM type hyped up comments bandied about. once we get to this level; calling anything; no matter how amazing it is, THE BEST is plainly ridiculous; but people get carried away and **** happens. live with it and roll with the punches. take what you need and make your decisions based on that and then own your decision. if you get some and you dont find them amazing, dont blame person X because they wrote a comment that said they were the best thing since sliced bread and they should have known better than to post their impressions before the crucial 500hr mark.
on with the thread; should have mine in a week or so with luck, so give me a week or so after that before I post anything of real value; the first week you'll have to just be satisfied with my 'i've got a new toy and I love it' type comments
nah i'll try and keep the to a minimum
