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Originally Posted by HeadphoneAddict /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Wow - you make so many blanket statements without any experience with Westone that it's almost funnier than it is sad.
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Clam down, mister.
Let me explain my "blanket" statements...
Btw, is it not possible to make a mistake in judgment here in head-fi without people jumping all over you? I'm human, I say inaccurate things sometimes. In this case, however, what I said were probably not as much inaccurate as unsubstantiated by further explanation.
"I guess since Westone isn't 100% dedicated to custom IEM manufacturing as JHA...."
Westone does much more than just custom IEMs if you visit their website. Custom earplugs and universal IEMs, for example, are what they also work on. By 100% dedication to custom IEM, I meant producing custom IEMs
exclusively, which obviously, something JHA does. Doesn't focusing all your resources on one type of product (in this case, custom IEM fabrication) allow you to better manage the quality of those products? I may be wrong about that, I admit, but don't start snapping at me.
"...it's no surprise that JHA is taking over this business by leaps and bounds."
I may have made a false assumption here. I apologize. The hints are mounting, though, that prospective buyers are looking more at the JHA line than anything else seeing how much activity is occuring in the JH13 thread; and seeing how some have already stated that they prefer their JH13 to their ES3X.
"And the sound is great - it's like buying a $1400 HD800 for only $850. Even if people prefer the more costly JH13Pro, that doesn't make the ES3X a bad product."
Never said the ES3X are crud, my friend. I'm mostly certain they're as awesome as you said they are, or at least very good.
"Not only do most people believe that JH13 is superior but JHA has also received the least number of refit requests."
If you think this one is another blanket statement and incorrect, I would have no idea why. JH13 & ES3X owners are saying they prefer their JH13 (except Ricey, so far). Many lurkers stated that they most likely are going for the JH13. I read few fit or balance issues, compared how many I read in this thread. How much more evidence is necessary?
"Powderhound, you guys are in serious mud."
My apology, Pownderhound. I meant that it is custom IEM fabrication business that may soon be struggling, due to new stiff competition... you guys definitely not muddish in any way. I know you're working hard to provide a great service. Sometimes, the best people are not necessarily the most capable people; but I'd rather associate with the best people than those who are just most capable.
"I seriously have considered the JH10 over your product so many times just because of the numbers of refits I kept reading about. I'm not going to pay you guys $850 so that I can spend half of my time for the first 3-6 months waiting."
This one is my honest personal opinion. While some, such as HPA, got their right the first time, there certainly are quite a number of cases reported here of fits or balancing issues. There was a user in the JH13 thread that said he was opting for JHA mainly due to his fear of dealing with the hassle of refits, alone. I'm not impatient, believe me; however, when company A offers a $850 product and 10 customers reported issues, and company B offers a competing $800 product with only 5 reports... it's not hard to decide which is more likely the better bargain.
"There are thousands of customers who don't come to head-fi to post their good experiences with Westone (or anyone else)."
I'm glad and certain those thousands of customers are happy with what they have from Westone. From all the activity in the other thread, it seems JHA may very soon be growing to have the same size of happy customers pool, perhaps exceeding it in the future if current trends continue.
I hope Westone continues to thrive. They are one of the first pioneers and seem to provide very decent customer service, which is why I why I am concerned about their standing in terms of competitiveness. I am still leaning towards the ES3X, mind you, Larry. The quality of JH13 is probably beyond the quality of my CDs recordings, and I haven't heard much about the JH3x10.