Its going to be xM Scaler (suppose x means how many millions of taps ?)Oh really? Did not get this one. Any more information on this?
Probably in choral range case.
Its going to be xM Scaler (suppose x means how many millions of taps ?)Oh really? Did not get this one. Any more information on this?
For me it is important that a new product provides me with a deeper and broader soundstage through my headphones as well. When it comes to tonality, we are all there where we want to be with current mscaler. Soundstage is important.Maybe we need to open a speculation thread for this? Only thing he was able or allowed to tell us was that it will be more complex and have more than a million taps.
And that it will be intended for the Dave, so it will more or less look like a blu 2 (maybe without cd drive this time).
I am guessing that because the chips he needs did not evolve enough he needs to work with multible chips in series or two different chips, something like that. And I would guess that it needs at least two or three times the power to operate.
I am betting either three million taps or 1,5 million with a better algorithm.
Giving the track record of his designs it will most likely sound a lot better than the previous design because he will not release it if it does not.
If not that will be good for my bank account
I think that you will not get a massive improvement when it comes to depth. To me it translates like this: one Meter better depth with speakers is like 5cm better depth on headphones. To me timbre accuracy is also one of the most important factors. The only headphone that can (almost) completely satisfy me in this specific area is the HD800 (after EQ).For me it is important that a new product provides me with a deeper and broader soundstage through my headphones as well. When it comes to tonality, we are all there where we want to be with current mscaler. Soundstage is important.
Same thing as I said above. The timbre accuracy that the m scaler can bring to the surface gets destroyed by coloration. Coloration is a very strong word for a chord DAC, but every DAC has some coloration. As you go up the line the coloration gets less and less because of better analogue parts and also better filtering (there is more to it than just wta1). So the Dave sounds a lot more transparent to me than Hugo 2. And the changes in timbre I can hear with the Dave are absolutely mesmerizing.I have a question:
The assumption is that Chord DACs improve by number of taps, say Cutest has about 50000 taps, Hugo TT2 has 100000 taps and Dave has 165000 taps.
Ofcourse mScaler has a million.
By connecting mScaler to any of these dacs, the WTA inside the dac gets defeated in favour of the mScaler, and so do the clocks.
So why choose Dave over TT2 ? for sound quality ofcourse.
why there is no sychronous USB output on mscaler? I understand that optical and coax can't manage 768kHz, hence the need for dual BNC, but USB could?
where am I going wrong?
Is that Dave with mscaler vs Hugo2 TT with mscaler?Same thing as I said above. The timbre accuracy that the m scaler can bring to the surface gets destroyed by coloration. Coloration is a very strong word for a chord DAC, but every DAC has some coloration. As you go up the line the coloration gets less and less because of better analogue parts and also better filtering (there is more to it than just wta1). So the Dave sounds a lot more transparent to me than Hugo 2. And the changes in timbre I can hear with the Dave are absolutely mesmerizing.
No, I meant Hugo 2. TT2 sounds like a warmer smoother more refined Hugo 2 but is not at the Dave level in my opinion. But I would take TT2 if you listen to a lot of not so perfect recordings because it is just a little bit more forgiving. A too fat or too lean recording is very apparent on Dave.Is that Dave with mscaler vs Hugo2 TT with mscaler?
I see, but if you read my question again, you will see that I was not comparing the dacs as they are, but rather what they would be with an mscaler.No, I meant Hugo 2. TT2 sounds like a warmer smoother more refined Hugo 2 but is not at the Dave level in my opinion. But I would take TT2 if you listen to a lot of not so perfect recordings because it is just a little bit more forgiving. A too fat or too lean recording is very apparent on Dave.
"I did say I can't give more details! Research is ongoing, but I have made a huge amount of progress so far in a number of different areas. You will have to wait till later next year to hear the results - but I can say that it will be another xM scaler intended to match Dave..."Oh really? Did not get this one. Any more information on this?
Yes, I heard the Hugo 2 with mscaler for two years and now Dave with mscaler for a yearI see, but if you read my question again, you will see that I was not comparing the dacs as they are, but rather what they would be with an mscaler.
...this is one of the scariest posts I've ever read. Subjectively speaking, of course.A RW-approved thumbs up chain is something we will have confidence is absolutely correct minus the subjective tuning.
I tend to agree on all points you make here and I am also still suprised how well the HD800 holds up against many much more expensive newcomers.I think that you will not get a massive improvement when it comes to depth. To me it translates like this: one Meter better depth with speakers is like 5cm better depth on headphones. To me timbre accuracy is also one of the most important factors. The only headphone that can (almost) completely satisfy me in this specific area is the HD800 (after EQ).
So I absolutely hope that the new m scaler also improves timbre because that is the thing that completely hypnotizes me when sitting in my chair.
Same thing as I said above. The timbre accuracy that the m scaler can bring to the surface gets destroyed by coloration. Coloration is a very strong word for a chord DAC, but every DAC has some coloration. As you go up the line the coloration gets less and less because of better analogue parts and also better filtering (there is more to it than just wta1). So the Dave sounds a lot more transparent to me than Hugo 2. And the changes in timbre I can hear with the Dave are absolutely mesmerizing.
...this is one of the scariest posts I've ever read. Subjectively speaking, of course.
I’m with you on that one, the Qutest/MScaler duo is hard to beat at its price point, interesting that more and more taps gets closer and closer to the ideal reconstruction, but that’s one thing good analogue recorded Vinyl doesn’t have to worry about, it wasn’t “deconstructed” in the first place, sure there are other limitations in the format but by the resurgence in Vinyl sales lately it’s still doing enough things “right” to make an attractive alternative,I tend to agree on all points you make here and I am also still suprised how well the HD800 holds up against many much more expensive newcomers.
I am still on and off using my old battered HD800 pair that I bought on recommendation from a classical recording engineer after having heard it at some of his actual recording sessions.
To be quite honest he now also uses electrostatic headphones at sessions.
My HD800 with Dekoni pads sounding its best and most transparent with a silver cable and is timbrally still very accurate after all these years.
I bought my pair in 2009.
With both acoustic instruments and the human voice when well recorded it is still up there among the best value for money, headphones I have ever auditioned.
I change headphones between my HD 800 and my HEKV2 with an OFC cable dependent on recordings.
I would not say no to a Susvara if it wasn´t so ridiculously expensive.
But nowadays most of my music listening is via my big electrostatic speakers, not headphones.
Regarding all these speculations of new Chord products from Rob Watts my bet is still firmly first Mojo 2, and then later an Mscaler X.
And my guess there is that X actually stands for the number 10 ie 10 m taps.
Also knowing that the guys behind PGGB have stated that they needed to employ 30 M taps! to rival the orginal Mscaler with 1 M taps,unless Rob has some very secret sauce to add, 10 M taps or more is what I suspect from Mscaler X.
Meanwhile I am very happy with my Mscaler/Qutest still reasonably affordable combo,and the sacrifices it involves compared to the even better but imho, VERY overpriced Dave/Mscaler.
Whatever else Chord has coming is of very limited interest for me personally . I only use Chord dacs and the Mscaler for Robs tech.
Cheers CC