[sardar17]

update
 
after 60 hours burn in---------------sibilance is 99% gone,trebles have almost completely mellowed and bass is soo soooooooooo good!!!  my brainwavz m3 had a tiny soundstage compared to these monsters
 
sibilance is noticed in only 1 out of 20 tracks and i think it will be gone by the time i hit another 10 hours

 

[elvergun]

   
it actually bothers me that even some youtube reviewers make statements like "they don't isolate that well, but if you bump up the volume, you won't hear anything outside anyway" no duh, but you wreck you hearing..... there needs to be some advertisements for hearing loss 

The masses...mostly stupid...and very soon, deaf.   

 
 
Gotta love them.

 

[sardar17]

  The masses...mostly stupid...and very soon, deaf.   

 
 
Gotta love them.

apparently they are in love with apple earpods too

 

[Tom22]

  update
 
after 60 hours burn in---------------sibilance is 99% gone,trebles have almost completely mellowed and bass is soo soooooooooo good!!!  my brainwavz m3 had a tiny soundstage compared to these monsters
 
sibilance is noticed in only 1 out of 20 tracks and i think it will be gone by the time i hit another 10 hours

i'm not so sure, i have my gr07 be for about a month now they were used before i'm not sure how long they were used prior but i probably logged about 50-100 hours or so. but i still notice the siblance in the treble.
 
its very minor imo doesn't detract me from enjoying it much, but compare to the more smoother and delicate treble of the re400. its very audible.
 
i'm beginning to learn to adapt to it, the rest of the sound is fantastic from the bass to the mids even right after the siblant peak there, the rest of the treble extension is fantastic, and the soundstage and the the sheer speed and clarity is very impressive
 
of course i may need to burn them in a bit more just to be sure, ( but i'll probably just listen to them normally) and report my findings if they change.
 
but imo this iem is the complete package

 

[sardar17]

  i'm not so sure, i have my gr07 be for about a month now they were used before i'm not sure how long they were used prior but i probably logged about 50-100 hours or so. but i still notice the siblance in the treble.
 
its very minor imo doesn't detract me from enjoying it much, but compare to the more smoother and delicate treble of the re400. its very audible.
 
i'm beginning to learn to adapt to it, the rest of the sound is fantastic from the bass to the mids even right after the siblant peak there, the rest of the treble extension is fantastic, and the soundstage and the the sheer speed and clarity is very impressive
 
of course i may need to burn them in a bit more just to be sure, ( but i'll probably just listen to them normally) and report my findings if they change.
 
but imo this iem is the complete package

 
exactly
 
but out of the box they were just unbearable to my ears.i couldn't tolerate them for 10 minutes,not anymore.
sibilance may never go completely but its pretty low now,,,the rest of the deal is fantastic,,,mostly the super awesome bass!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[sardar17]

  i'm not so sure, i have my gr07 be for about a month now they were used before i'm not sure how long they were used prior but i probably logged about 50-100 hours or so. but i still notice the siblance in the treble.
 
its very minor imo doesn't detract me from enjoying it much, but compare to the more smoother and delicate treble of the re400. its very audible.
 
i'm beginning to learn to adapt to it, the rest of the sound is fantastic from the bass to the mids even right after the siblant peak there, the rest of the treble extension is fantastic, and the soundstage and the the sheer speed and clarity is very impressive
 
of course i may need to burn them in a bit more just to be sure, ( but i'll probably just listen to them normally) and report my findings if they change.
 
but imo this iem is the complete package

 
can u compare it to re 400??

 

[sardar17]

will I get a dx 50 now?

 

[Tom22]

   
can u compare it to re 400??

hope this is not rude but this was my response about 10 pages back i think
 
i have both well the be edition for the gr07
 
i find the be gr07 is better all rounder, the bass is fast and punchy from what i'm reading here the sheer speed and fast decay is the same just the amount of impact is different for the bass (be obviously having more) i think its better for more modern music, edm, pop, rock etc
 
the midrange i felt is not really that recessed at all, compare the the bass
 
comparing the midrange to the re400 well, without the bass boost it made the vocals more clear and actually with the delicate treble response made the depth and height of the soundstage spectacular
 
the gr07 be had a little siblance in the treble compare the smooth and delicate treble of the re400. i got use to it so its not really a bother but if you a/b them its quite obvious.  but if you listen to a lot of rock (it can get a bit harsh fast). the re400 to me is better for vocal music and slower to medium tracks. 
 
the soundstage on the gr07 be is rather wide, it would be a lot airier without the bass boost i imagine the mk II would be more like that. but does not have much vertical height or layering to me 
 
if you want thumping bass neither is good for that. but both can reach very low and very high quite effortlessly. the re400 to me has better detail, easier for you to pick it out various aspects with listening. while the gr07 is kind of in a sense pushing it to your face (this is very minor, the klipsch s4 does this to a whole another degree, makes it very splashy, and indistinct)
 
i think the 30$ if anything would go toward the cable, the y connector and adjustable nozzle and the supreme amount of eartip sizes and ear guides. both are easily fitted but i think the gr07 would appeal to more (the cable is much nicer and sturdier) the nozzle will basically fit anyone of all different ear canal shapes
 
the re400 has a very nice j shape jack. very sturdy but i honestly think the cable should be replaced. but for 99$ thats such a small quibble considering how much sound quality you get for that price
 
mind you i use both over ear so microphonics is low for both its no bother

 

[sardar17]

nice

I got mk2 for 135 so no regrets here

and sibilance is there for very very few tracks like in the whole eminem album recovery only not afraid is sibilant,rest all are just fine

similarly pink floyd,porcupine tree are totally sibilance free

local indian bollywood stuff,local rock totally sibilance free

so all in all I am happy


the only thing preventing me from getting re 400 is poor build quality

 

[modulor]

Sibilance can (and usually is) inherent to certain recordings that exaggerate it themselves by default, so you may not eliminate it completely in every track...but it certainly does improve after some time with the Vsonics.  They still have a tendency to emphasize that area of the FR though not to as great an extent.  Sometimes poorer recordings and low bitrate source files can also be the culprit (as I've found out before) so just keep that in mind too.  I have albums that pretty much require either the EPH-100 or RE-400 just because of poor recording quality that has sibilance and other treble harshness very apparent, but I also may be more sensitive to treble than others 

  I wonder if it's possible to add an acoustic filter (Knowles Dampers for example, if they even fit the nozzle) to the GR07 or if anyone has tried this yet?

 

[sardar17]

  Sibilance can (and usually is) inherent to certain recordings that exaggerate it themselves by default, so you may not eliminate it completely in every track...but it certainly does improve after some time with the Vsonics.  They still have a tendency to emphasize that area of the FR though not to as great an extent.  Sometimes poorer recordings and low bitrate source files can also be the culprit (as I've found out before) so just keep that in mind too.  I have albums that pretty much require either the EPH-100 or RE-400 just because of poor recording quality that has sibilance and other treble harshness very apparent, but I also may be more sensitive to treble than others 

  I wonder if it's possible to add an acoustic filter (Knowles Dampers for example, if they even fit the nozzle) to the GR07 or if anyone has tried this yet?

i was asking the same question in my local forum!!!just before u posted this,haha
 
i guess we can equalize based on the treble peak we see on the graph??
 
has anyone at least tried that??

 

[sardar17]

also my older clip+ with 20 gb of flac files was stolen so right now i am using only 320kbps.maybe using flac will decrease the harsh treble a bit

 

[modulor]

Possibly, but I think there are some limitations of the DAC chip in the Clip+ (while it does sound very good for it's price, it's not the most technical unit) and I personally have found .flac to be overkill compared to well-encoded higher bitrate .mp3, .aac or .ogg.  Just my two cents 

 but you certainly can do some EQ-ing.  If the Clip+ has rockbox (that is if you got a new one), you'll have alot of options.

 

[Gilly87]

Anybody heard anything about the version with replaceable cables? They said it would be released in 2013...thought we were done with the lies and overhype after the V7007 and all that garbage...guess we know what to expect from VSONIC now.

 

[Imamuppet]

  Possibly, but I think there are some limitations of the DAC chip in the Clip+ (while it does sound very good for it's price, it's not the most technical unit) and I personally have found .flac to be overkill compared to well-encoded higher bitrate .mp3, .aac or .ogg.  Just my two cents 

 but you certainly can do some EQ-ing.  If the Clip+ has rockbox (that is if you got a new one), you'll have alot of options.

 
Personally, I can't tell the difference between lossless and Lame encoded V0 mp3. Frankly, I've hard time distinguishing 192kb mp3s from lossless but my hearing is not the greatest either.