[Fegefeuer]

I've tried a lot of all that USB stuff, from the EITR to Allegro to EITR, to Matrix, Singxer, Mutec etc and it's simply not worth it. No Matrix, Singxer, Mutec will ever beat a multichannel card.
Get the EITR and be happy with it or go big and get a true interface card. Anything else can be a terribly deep rabbit hole full of nervosa.

The EITR does a lot of good things for its price and handles USB properly. True Isolation, reclocking, independant power from the source aka self-powered.

Of course I'd be curious to see how the DAT RS05 improves the chain as an external femtoclock.

 

[JPlaquia]

@Pharmaboy - well unfortunately there is no way for me to test both devices I mentioned, that is why I am trying to gather some opinions .

My favorite so far is the Matrix SPDIF 2. It's the most refined of the converts I've used.

The matrix is out of my budget so I that is automatically off of my list hehe, and I think the difference it has with the eitr is the AES/EBU which will not really matter to me as I am planning to get the RS05 (sorry forgot to mention this earlier).

I am successfully using a Fiio K3 as a usb to coax converter with an Atlas cable and it sounds very good.

Didn’t know that the K3 has a usb to coax functionality, will check this out, thank you!

 

[jerick70]

Very interesting. Never heard of this one. Can it be used w/o the external power supply (ie, using USB bus power only)?

How is it better than other converters? And do you mean "expensive," not "expressive"?

(thanks)

Yes it can be used without a power adapter. You can buy a power adapter for it too. Yes I mean expensive not expressive. Auto-correct is the bane of my existence....

A few things that I find superior to other adapters I've used....

1) It has been the easiest to use technically, I've had no problems with disconnect and show stoppers like that.
2) It has and I2S output.
3) It is much more refined sounding. More transparent. It doesn't change the sound like others I've used.

That's a few I can think of.

 

[jerick70]

@Pharmaboy - well unfortunately there is no way for me to test both devices I mentioned, that is why I am trying to gather some opinions .




The matrix is out of my budget so I that is automatically off of my list hehe, and I think the difference it has with the eitr is the AES/EBU which will not really matter to me as I am planning to get the RS05 (sorry forgot to mention this earlier).



Didn’t know that the K3 has a usb to coax functionality, will check this out, thank you!

So I did a little Googling and it seems the D10 is as good as the Matrix. This link has measurements. One thing about measurements is they don't tell the whole story but go with the D10 I think you'll be happy.

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...of-matrix-audio-x-spdif-2-usb-converter.6597/

 

[Pharmaboy]

So I did a little Googling and it seems the D10 is as good as the Matrix. This link has measurements. One thing about measurements is they don't tell the whole story but go with the D10 I think you'll be happy.

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...of-matrix-audio-x-spdif-2-usb-converter.6597/

But we don't listen to measurements...and sometimes a device that measure less well than another device is reported to sound better.

Example: all other things being equal, a tube amp will measure less well than a solid state amp. But many of the tube amps I've heard sound the voice of god (and I don't even believe in god).

 

[jerick70]

But we don't listen to measurements...and sometimes a device that measure less well than another device is reported to sound better.

Example: all other things being equal, a tube amp will measure less well than a solid state amp. But many of the tube amps I've heard sound the voice of god (and I don't even believe in god).

I agree. I'm guessing the D10 isn't as good. The SPDIF 2 is custom engineered and does reduce noise. I've heard it first thing.

 

[George Hincapie]

Just saw this: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hi-End-F...718360?hash=item41ca86fc98:g:BwgAAOSwqVBZaBn0

Made in the same factory or a clone?

 

[Pharmaboy]

Just saw this: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hi-End-F...718360?hash=item41ca86fc98:g:BwgAAOSwqVBZaBn0

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Just saw this: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hi-End-F...718360?hash=item41ca86fc98:g:BwgAAOSwqVBZaBn0

Made in the same factory or a clone?

Made in the same factory or a clone?

Clone, all the way. This clone V281 thing keeps popping up from time to time in this string.

There is no free lunch. No copy can do what a V281 does. If you aspire to own a V281, save your $$ and buy one. Don't mess w/clones.

 

[hifimckinney]

I've tried a lot of all that USB stuff, from the EITR to Allegro to EITR, to Matrix, Singxer, Mutec etc and it's simply not worth it. No Matrix, Singxer, Mutec will ever beat a multichannel card.
Get the EITR and be happy with it or go big and get a true interface card. Anything else can be a terribly deep rabbit hole full of nervosa.

The EITR does a lot of good things for its price and handles USB properly. True Isolation, reclocking, independant power from the source aka self-powered.

Of course I'd be curious to see how the DAT RS05 improves the chain as an external femtoclock.

Just curious if yo have given Dante a try? Totally different and perfect (if I may say so). I too have been through those you mentioned and Audiophilleo but Dante connectivity by Audinate is so benign, it just does not do anything with the signal, signal remains pristine clean.

 

[George Hincapie]

Clone, all the way. This clone V281 thing keeps popping up from time to time in this string.

There is no free lunch. No copy can do what a V281 does. If you aspire to own a V281, save your $$ and buy one. Don't mess w/clones.

Nice, thanks.

 

[ajreynol]

Has anyone run into an issue where their V281 switches inputs on its own volition? I don't have any IR-enabled equipment near by and the batteries are not in the remote control. It does this maybe a couple of times a month. I'll just notice my music isn't playing on my headphones, look over, and notice it's not on the right input.

 

[Anaz]

Has anyone run into an issue where their V281 switches inputs on its own volition? I don't have any IR-enabled equipment near by and the batteries are not in the remote control. It does this maybe a couple of times a month. I'll just notice my music isn't playing on my headphones, look over, and notice it's not on the right input.

I've never had that happen...have you tried a factory reset? (Factory reset: press the “XLR” button when turning on the V281)

 

[Pharmaboy]

I've never had that happen...have you tried a factory reset? (Factory reset: press the “XLR” button when turning on the V281)

what's the purpose of a factory reset? does it simply revert the unit to factory settings (hard to imagine, since some of those settings are via physical dipswitches)? or is there some kind of operating system software involved?

 

[Fegefeuer]

It resets all software based settings like pre/post fader to the default setting.

 

[Christoph]

Has anyone run into an issue where their V281 switches inputs on its own volition? I don't have any IR-enabled equipment near by and the batteries are not in the remote control. It does this maybe a couple of times a month. I'll just notice my music isn't playing on my headphones, look over, and notice it's not on the right input.

To exclude any other IR source interferences, you could tape the small round window in front of the IR sensor (with a non transparent tape of course) and the see if it happens again.