[Brooko]

Yeah - it will depend on personal physiology I guess.  Some may still want to use foams if they never get a reasonable seal anyway - but I tried them before, and very boomy.
 
Zen2 naked though - crikey - it sounds amazing.  Don't want to take them out of my ears.  I usually try to avoid too much hype - but these really are gold.

 

[Frederick Wang]

I am still waiting for Zen 2.0 balanced version.
Last night I checked out their taobao page, there were still non-balanced version in stock, but sold out over night

 

[nmatheis]

I'll just have to wait and see, I guess. I've always had pretty good luck with earbuds, so maybe they'll stay put just fine with the foamies.
 
In any case, it looks like VE's done it again!
 
Spock is happy!!!
 

 

[zhibli06]

 
 
Very nice analysis @Brooko. I think I might need to use Earhoox with Zen 2.0 then, as I typically use foams to help stabilize earbuds.

 

 
 
Very nice analysis @Brooko. I think I might need to use Earhoox with Zen 2.0 then, as I typically use foams to help stabilize earbuds.

hey Nic, not sure, if my guys sent u the earhoxx-look-alike ( I hope i wont be served by earhoxx lol)
 
but it will be included in the accessories , so as the new foams ( for zen 3 bags of them , one bag = 1 pair of regular + 1 bag of donunt )
 
 
 
here is the picture from one of my fans in China
 
 
Cheers
 
Lee
 
@Brooko  wow 

 

[golov17]

Respect Brokoo for a big good job! Thank you, very faster

 

[nmatheis]

No problem @zhibli06! I'll try them with and without foamies, and if I feel like I need earhoox I'll order some.
 
Sounds like you and kk deserve a big 

 for Zen 2.0!!!

 

[DJScope]

  And now the sonics.
 
First - looking at the Zen 1s without any foam covers.  I'd never measured like this before, because I couldn't wear them like this.  And here is why:
 

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

Zen 1 (originals) - with no covers ​	Zen 2 (new) - with no covers ​

 
Basically with no covers, the bass is really low relative to the vocals, and to many anyway sounded very unnatural.  Next to it is the new Zen 2 with no covers.  Notice the very natural balance - bit if a hump at 100-200 Hz, but still sounds really clean, and the relative spike at 2K is much lower - so vocals aren't as forward - yay!  BTW - look at the driver matching - incredibly good.  Really hard to measure though.
 
So lets look at both earphones with the new doughnut covers on.
 

The Zen 1 is transformed with covers on - and this is the earphone I loved​	Zen 2 however - nope - too bassy, this is supposed to be worn covers off​

 
Zen1 now looks much better and closer to the Zen2 default (no covers).  Hwoever putting the covers on the Zen2 - for me anyway - really doesn't work.  Far too boomy.
 
And for a better comparison
 

Zen 1 bare vs Zen 1 with covers fitted - no question of the improvement​	But Zen 2 without covers vs with covers is not recommended (by me anyway)​

 
And finally comparsions of the two earphones
 

No covers Zen 1 vs Zen 2​	With covers Zen 1 vs Zen 2​

 
 
If you prefer using your Zens with no covers it really is a no brainer - Zen 2 is definitely the way to go.  But if you really like using a cover, then Zen 1 will probably net better results.
 
Hope this helps.

 
Could you chuck the Monk into the mix? Or is that too much to ask? 

 

[golov17]

So .., who will be the next declaration of love to Zen2.0?

 

[jenia1]

any of you EU folks out there, still planning to make a Zen 1.0 or 2.0 tours ?

 

[Brooko]

   
Could you chuck the Monk into the mix? Or is that too much to ask? 

 
I can do it tomorrow for you.  Anything in particular - as I'll basically have to measure the whole lot again.

 

[DJScope]

I can do it tomorrow for you.  Anything in particular - as I'll basically have to measure the whole lot again.

Can't you just overlay the Monks measurments ontop of these graphs? If you gotta do it all again I don't want to trouble you with curiousity.

 

[Brooko]

I don't mind doing it - just don't want to redo every graph - so if you can tell me the specific ones, it makes it easier.

 

[golov17]

I think he wants to see on the chart the difference zen vs monk

 

[Antihippy]

What's the general sound signature of the 2.0?

 

[DJScope]

  I don't mind doing it - just don't want to redo every graph - so if you can tell me the specific ones, it makes it easier.

 
Zen 1, Zen 2 and Monk with foams. And waterfall if you can of the Zen 2 and Monk. You know I'm all about them waterfalls!