[MuppetFace]

 
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To make it value for money, it have to be 2.5 times better
 

 

The problem is, you're trying to judge something QUALitative by QUANTitative means.

 

[grokit]

 
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The problem is, you're trying to judge something QUALitative by QUANTitative means.

It's all about subjective objectivity IMO 

 

[warp08]

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I'm sure you could find a nice R10 or Qualia if you asked around. 

Not anywhere close to Ed10 MSRP I'm afraid.

 

[MuppetFace]

 
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Not anywhere close to Ed10 MSRP I'm afraid.

That was in response to a joke about the Ed. 10 being "too cheap." 

 

[crucial]

Can the Ed10 be pre-ordered? If so, from whom: dealers, Ultrasone?

 

[warp08]

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That was in response to a joke about the Ed. 10 being "too cheap." 

Sorry, I missed that.  The sticker shock of buying R10s and a Qualia recently hasn't yet worn off of me...

 

[warp08]

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Can the Ed10 be pre-ordered? If so, from whom: dealers, Ultrasone?

Whiplash Audio is an Ultrasone Dealer, I got my Edition 8s from Craig.  Maybe he has a lead on some 10s also.

 

[MuppetFace]

 
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Can the Ed10 be pre-ordered? If so, from whom: dealers, Ultrasone?

I contacted Ultrasone directly. Since I'm in the US, I talked to a nice lady in their US division. She put my name on her pre-orders list and told me she'd let me know as soon as it could be ordered.

 

[crucial]

 
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I contacted Ultrasone directly. Since I'm in the US, I talked to a nice lady in their US division. She put my name on her pre-orders list and told me she'd let me know as soon as it could be ordered.

Thanks. I will try that as well.
 

 

[didxogns1]

am i the only one how think is just a open ver. of edition.8 with double price???

 

[kwkarth]

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The PRO650 & HFI2200 share gold-plated drivers. They do sound quite different though.
The PRO750, PRO2500, PRO900, PRO2900, & Edition 9 all share the same titanium  drivers. These also sound different, including differences between the PRO closed models (damn good) & the Ed9 (even better).
 
The Edition 10 appears to also use this same titanium driver in a similiar configuration. Again, there can easily be tweaks that can have significant changes to the sound. But it is the same driver, which is among the best dynamic driver in production today, and worthy of inclusion inside a luxury statement product, imo.
 
(I'm not sure about the Edition 8 driver, although I bet it's that same titanium driver as well)

Good observations.  Florian did mention that the driver used in the ED 10 uses a newly designed diaphragm, so it may have the same basket as the previous titanium sputtered mylar driver, but then again that may be different as well.  He also mentioned that the magnetic structure is stronger as well.  Perhaps they changed to a stronger magnet for all their drivers going forward.  The ED 8 driver appears to be the same physical design as the lower Pro series, but probably Ultrasone, like Grado and Intel, use a selection process and only the highest performing drivers go in the best cans.  Because there are far fewer of them, their value is much higher.
 

 

[sonance]

I have no idea what the Ed 10 will sound like, but reading this thread before most people have had a chance to listen to them is very illuminating - you can see what different people's thoughts are about 'phones in this price range, regardless of what they may sound like.

 

[neptius]

I am fascinated how people are so interested on headphones which costs in range of Ed 10 but there the real price is around 1000 euro, all other is luxury or overcosted factor etc. I would like to compare T1 and Ed 10, how much faster are ed 10 then T1. In Europe I am able purchase T1 with price around 800 euro, with good discount around 700 euro. I think, this is rational price. I do not understand what costs more then 2000 euro in Ed 10.

 

[oqvist]

Here we go again lol

 

[haloxt]

neptius, does the T1 come with a nice wooden case and stand? Leather earpads, wood inlays, and ruthenium plating?