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Headphoneus Supremus
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Proof I think that what Westone does is not so easy. Worth the wait IMHO.
TWAG is a cable! http://www.whiplashaudio.com/elite-twag-replacement-cable-48.html
Yes they won't have the soft material for '90' days, which they told me both times I called which were a week a part and that was 2 weeks ago. It may still be 90 days away...
Quote:TWAG is a cable! http://www.whiplashaudio.com/elite-twag-replacement-cable-48.html
Ahhh, and they make one for my UE11's! Purtee, but wow that's a lot of money for a headphone cable.. I'm betting there are lengthy discussions somewhere about the enhancements from TWAG's?!
joe, hopefully you can audition a universal demo version there before committing yourself. you may want to call and ask them. bring along familiar equipment and music. you may also want to contact francis miranda. she's an audiologist in the beverly hills area and i think she may have various models and brands that you may demo. she's also reputed to be one of the best people in the business for making ear canal impressions for iems (as per Jerry Harvey). if you buy from her i don't think she charges for the impressions.
anyone who gets impressions done, please post your experiences here, following the instructions in post #1:
http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/440466/the-audiologists-impressions-thread-pun-most-definitely-intended.
Thanks for the feedback. To be honest, I just want to get it over with. I've been mulling it over way too long. I've never heard an IEM that I love. So, at the very least I won't be disappointed if I don't love these. I figure that a flat sound signature is at the very least, safe.
I love my B&W Nautalis 805Ds, but I wouldn't describe them as flat. My DynAudio Countour 5.4's are flat and I don't love them like I do my B&Ws, but they are enjoyable. So, I figure I will end up with a safe, boring earphone out of these. At least I won't hate them.
Quote:joe, hopefully you can audition a universal demo version there before committing yourself. you may want to call and ask them. bring along familiar equipment and music. you may also want to contact francis miranda. she's an audiologist in the beverly hills area and i think she may have various models and brands that you may demo. she's also reputed to be one of the best people in the business for making ear canal impressions for iems (as per Jerry Harvey). if you buy from her i don't think she charges for the impressions.
anyone who gets impressions done, please post your experiences here, following the instructions in post #1:
http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/440466/the-audiologists-impressions-thread-pun-most-definitely-intended.
Dave, I have no argument with the logic but... conversely... many of us do make partial leaps of faith based upon an assessment of all factors that are available to us (including reviews, manufacturer, product line evolution, new technologies etc.). This often brings excellent results. It's part of the game - especially if you are remotely placed like me. (I get to hear a lot of portable amps which are well stocked in Hong Kong but custom demo units?... not a chance.)
To be honest, I'm really looking forward to actually going to the Ultimate Ears facility. I think it will be great to see where they are made. I'd have a hard time believing that they would have a bad audiologist. For me, the fact that they are local, and that I like the cable makes the difference. I have a hard time believing that they would be a bad product. So, it is just a matter of preference. Rolling the dice. I will see if I can listen to the Pro 18. If I like those better, I may get them.
the search function is your friend - really, it is! it'll get you lots of answers, sometimes to questions you hadn't yet thought of, as well as sparing you some barbs from folks 'cause you hadn't bothered to look up what's all ready been dealt with a zillion times.
yes, a twag cable is not inexpensive (though sometimes you can find one used for less $). generally, those that have tried have like it - a lot! even more so if they run them balanced (eg. out of a Protector amp). you will find a whole bunch of folks here who don't believe in cable differences and consider them a rip off. i find that few of them have actually bothered to listen and make their vehement arguments based on theory or their beliefs alone.
To be honest, I'm really looking forward to actually going to the Ultimate Ears facility. I think it will be great to see where they are made. I'd have a hard time believing that they would have a bad audiologist. For me, the fact that they are local, and that I like the cable makes the difference. I have a hard time believing that they would be a bad product. So, it is just a matter of preference. Rolling the dice. I will see if I can listen to the Pro 18. If I like those better, I may get them.
Quote:To be honest, I'm really looking forward to actually going to the Ultimate Ears facility. I think it will be great to see where they are made. I'd have a hard time believing that they would have a bad audiologist. For me, the fact that they are local, and that I like the cable makes the difference. I have a hard time believing that they would be a bad product. So, it is just a matter of preference. Rolling the dice. I will see if I can listen to the Pro 18. If I like those better, I may get them.
I would sure love to hear your impressions, err, so to speak of everything.. the facility, the IERMs vs the UE18s. I'm considering getting one of the two myself so I'd love to hear all about them.
Ironically, I myself am just down the road from Jerry Harvey facility in sunny central FL... I wonder if they do facility visits?
Quote:To be honest, I'm really looking forward to actually going to the Ultimate Ears facility. I think it will be great to see where they are made. I'd have a hard time believing that they would have a bad audiologist. For me, the fact that they are local, and that I like the cable makes the difference. I have a hard time believing that they would be a bad product. So, it is just a matter of preference. Rolling the dice. I will see if I can listen to the Pro 18. If I like those better, I may get them.
head-fiers have gone to UE before (though it may have been in the pre Logitech days). in fact there have been meets of sorts there. UE is in Irvine (http://ultimateears.com/en-us/support/contact) and Francis Miranda is in Santa Monica (http://www.rockstarears.com/home.html). if you can get to one isn't it easy enough to get to the other? i doubt that UE actually has audiologists there. someone will just make the impressions of your ear canals, and they may do a fine job. FM is considered one of the best at doing this. go back and read some of the threads (eg. re westone es3x and jha13) and see about a bunch of folks getting suboptimal fits and their woes. you may do just fine getting fitted at UE but if what you want is to see the facility that may be doable regardless. if what you want is to get the most satisfying listening experience for your ~$1000 outlay, why not go where you might actually be able to listen prior to plunking down your $, and have one of the best in the business do your fitting?
it just seems to me that you are in an easy position to minimize the variables and maximize the experience. if i were there it'd be an easy and obvious choice, so i don't really understand your line of thought. i think you can have your cake and eat it too. look, you do what you want and i really hope that whatever it is that you're very happy at the end of the day. let us know how it works out.
Quote:Quote:To be honest, I'm really looking forward to actually going to the Ultimate Ears facility. I think it will be great to see where they are made. I'd have a hard time believing that they would have a bad audiologist. For me, the fact that they are local, and that I like the cable makes the difference. I have a hard time believing that they would be a bad product. So, it is just a matter of preference. Rolling the dice. I will see if I can listen to the Pro 18. If I like those better, I may get them.
I would sure love to hear your impressions, err, so to speak of everything.. the facility, the IERMs vs the UE18s. I'm considering getting one of the two myself so I'd love to hear all about them.
Ironically, I myself am just down the road from Jerry Harvey facility in sunny central FL... I wonder if they do facility visits?
people have gone to JHA before and gotten to listen to demo units. call ahead and see if you can arrange it.