TRINITY - PHANTOM Series - New thread + WORLDS FIRST PUSH PULL HYBRID IEM!*

[BlueMango]

Hmm, so I seem to be missing the balanced cable for my Master. Does anyone have a clue what Trinity are gonna do?
Well, at least the connector is a normal 3.5" TRRS , I could make one myself.

On a side note, I do agree that the Masters are a fraction harder to drive than your "normal" low impedance phones. I tested it on my phone that has weak output and found that I'd have to ramp up the volume quite a bit.
I've found that the Green filters work best for my preference, but finding the best tips might take some time. I didn't like how the Kombi Tips sounded, and as I've found the JVC spiral dots work great for my ears on the PM4, I'll give them a try on the Masters too. I do have some Spinfits and Final Audio E Type tips so I might give them a try too, but I've found the Final Audio adds too much bass for my ears.

Use PowerAmp v3 Alpha and enable Hi-res audio, problem solved.

 

[LordOfMusic]

Use PowerAmp v3 Alpha and enable Hi-res audio, problem solved.

In my phone this function saying that it dont work.

 

[BlueMango]

In my phone this function saying that it dont work.

Yeah, they'll come out with an update soon later this month hopefully. When i used it on my Samsung s6 with Android 6.0 it sounded so different it was night and day.

 

[ocrynox]

Are there any news about pm6 or Hunter yet?

 

[guysmileeey]

Well apparently you do or you wouldn't be posting all of this.

Nonsense. The only obstacle between my IEMs and my brain is earwax, not your opinions

 

[HungryPanda]

The balanced cables weren't ready, I didn't get a case either with mine. i did with my Vyrus 2's and my Hyperions. Not that I'm that bothered as I had a few little iem cases lying around. I would love the balanced cable in the end though

 

[fpessolano]

I did not get a vyrus2 case and they never replied to my question about why.

I had to read it here.

 

[dave9527]

Are there any news about pm6 or Hunter yet?

"Next week, guaranteed"

 

[tricot]

My masters just came in and they didn't come with a case or extra kombi tips. Is this normal?

 

[DannyBai]

What is normal for trinity is far from normal for a reputable business.

 

[Indigo Bob]

Are there any news about pm6 or Hunter yet?

No news. Just delays and Next-Weeks.



On a side note... I'm glad you guys like the masters. you only paid 60GBP for them. For those of us invested in something like the Hunter, we want want something that lives up to the TOTL status.

And yes, trinity's track record since the Delta vII has been below standards I would say. The Sabre was not that great of an IEM. The PM4 a debacle. You can see some better quality reviews through the hype of the typical fanboy impressions with more accurate descriptions of the Master. And as I wait for the Hunter you got the Air not living up to standards.

There's a lot of people who only paid 60 GBP's telling me the Masters are good but they can't really describe why and there is a lack of technical vocabulary to describe it. Even if they didn't know the technical jargon they would be able to articulate something accurate. I don't really care what the group majority says... If you hear good well articulated explanations of faults among bland and vague comments of something being good it will tell you something, even if it be of something subtle that the less trained ear can hear.

And there are a lot of people who have ben listening to audio for a long time and can't describe the sound that well at all. Yes comparisons are important, but if you can hear the sound for what it's worth, you don't need comparisons to describe a sound accurately.

There's a lot of people who won't be able to discern the subtleties of the sound and appreciate them and they will tell you an IEM is worth more than it is.

But I will guarantee that if these people had to pay the full retail price for these items, the impressions would be very different. And whether or not they are aware of that bias or not I don't care.

There is a huge amount of group dynamics influencing how people perceive these IEM's along with the bias from the discount and an accurate picture, as it was with the Sabre and the pm4, is lost.

And for those of you who can hear the subtleties, those 2 out of 10 reviews that disliked certain aspects of the Master are touching on it more accurately even if they are afraid to admit it.

 

[Intensecure]

@Indigo Bob - firstly let me clarify, I don't want to start an argument, I do agree with a lot of what you say about Trinity the company. The Master I haven't heard so can't comment.
But what puzzles me, not just about you but let's say in general..some people have ordered multiple expensive IEMs unheard, and.you point out that

trinity's track record since the Delta vII has been below standards I would say. The Sabre was not that great of an IEM. The PM4 a debacle

And yet you put down what I consider to be serious money on a gamble that Bob/Trinity have been able to go from successfully making decent budget IEMs (I think the Hyperion was a great start) attempting, and in your view failing, to move up to mid-fi quality IEMs, and now going for TOTL sound.
What made you initially trust them to do so if you think that the last attempts failed?
I'm not being contentious, but genuinely curious. Was it the lure of price? Because I do see, and have been victim to, the temptations of "discounts", and had to correct myself before I went too far, and marketing is a powerful thing obviously. But I will wait and see if Trinity have the chops to do high-end before ever committing to that kind of cash on an unknown.
What made you seemingly go against your opinions of their recent progress, and how confident do you feel now?

 

[majo123]

Indigo bob i just want to point out that just because someone cant articulate what they are hearing very well , doesnt mean there hearing is a less accurate representation than yours.

 

[Indigo Bob]

@Indigo Bob - firstly let me clarify, I don't want to start an argument, I do agree with a lot of what you say about Trinity the company. The Master I haven't heard so can't comment.
But what puzzles me, not just about you but let's say in general..some people have ordered multiple expensive IEMs unheard, and.you point out that

And yet you put down what I consider to be serious money on a gamble that Bob/Trinity have been able to go from successfully making decent budget IEMs (I think the Hyperion was a great start) attempting, and in your view failing, to move up to mid-fi quality IEMs, and now going for TOTL sound.
What made you initially trust them to do so if you think that the last attempts failed?
I'm not being contentious, but genuinely curious. Was it the lure of price? Because I do see, and have been victim to, the temptations of "discounts", and had to correct myself before I went too far, and marketing is a powerful thing obviously. But I will wait and see if Trinity have the chops to do high-end before ever committing to that kind of cash on an unknown.
What made you seemingly go against your opinions of their recent progress, and how confident do you feel now?

Have you tried the delta series at all?

The hyperion stays within the tier of budget head-fi as would the vyrus I'd say.

The Delta's would be considered entry level I'd say, but they do compete very well with mid-fi and I will say that the delta's are better than the pm4 and the sabre.

The deltas are why I stuck with the preorders of the AD and Hunter. The Delta's are where the original hype for this company came from.

It was not the lure of the price but impressions of the hunter that sounded promising and moving in the direction that the delta series seemed to be moving in if they were to progress to more mature sound signatures.

Indigo bob i just want to point out that just because someone cant articulate what they are hearing very well , doesnt mean there hearing is a less accurate representation than yours.

I agree, and it takes a bit of judgement. But if a person can't communicate what they are hearing then for someone looking to judge whether or not that is an IEM for them, I would say not to listen to person who can't talk about it if you're looking to get a more accurate picture beyond, "very good" or "i like it".

To get a more accurate picture of an IEM, you tend to want more accurate descriptions.

 

[majo123]

No news. Just delays and Next-Weeks.



On a side note... I'm glad you guys like the masters. you only paid 60GBP for them. For those of us invested in something like the Hunter, we want want something that lives up to the TOTL status.

And yes, trinity's track record since the Delta vII has been below standards I would say. The Sabre was not that great of an IEM. The PM4 a debacle. You can see some better quality reviews through the hype of the typical fanboy impressions with more accurate descriptions of the Master. And as I wait for the Hunter you got the Air not living up to standards.

There's a lot of people who only paid 60 GBP's telling me the Masters are good but they can't really describe why and there is a lack of technical vocabulary to describe it. Even if they didn't know the technical jargon they would be able to articulate something accurate. I don't really care what the group majority says... If you hear good well articulated explanations of faults among bland and vague comments of something being good it will tell you something, even if it be of something subtle that the less trained ear can hear.

And there are a lot of people who have ben listening to audio for a long time and can't describe the sound that well at all. Yes comparisons are important, but if you can hear the sound for what it's worth, you don't need comparisons to describe a sound accurately.

There's a lot of people who won't be able to discern the subtleties of the sound and appreciate them and they will tell you an IEM is worth more than it is.

But I will guarantee that if these people had to pay the full retail price for these items, the impressions would be very different. And whether or not they are aware of that bias or not I don't care.

There is a huge amount of group dynamics influencing how people perceive these IEM's along with the bias from the discount and an accurate picture, as it was with the Sabre and the pm4, is lost.

And for those of you who can hear the subtleties, those 2 out of 10 reviews that disliked certain aspects of the Master are touching on it more accurately even if they are afraid to admit it.

Have you tried the delta series at all?

The hyperion stays within the tier of budget head-fi as would the vyrus I'd say.

The Delta's would be considered entry level I'd say, but they do compete very well with mid-fi and I will say that the delta's are better than the pm4 and the sabre.

The deltas are why I stuck with the preorders of the AD and Hunter. The Delta's are where the original hype for this company came from.

It was not the lure of the price but impressions of the hunter that sounded promising and moving in the direction that the delta series seemed to be moving in if they were to progress to more mature sound signatures.


I agree, and it takes a bit of judgement. But if a person can't communicate what they are hearing then for someone looking to judge whether or not that is an IEM for them, I would say not to listen to person who can't talk about it if you're looking to get a more accurate picture beyond, "very good" or "i like it".

To get a more accurate picture of an IEM, you tend to want more accurate descriptions.

I respect that, a more detailed description definitely helps.
Personally for me i like a bit of general consensus and a bit of detailed description.